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Old 12-30-2005, 01:03 PM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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Default Re: Typical rule for dealer double-burn mistake?

Note that the method used in Robert's Rules is reasonable only if the cards are stuck together and it's completely certain what the order is. If this method is used a good floor must correct things in such a way that everyone understands that the card picked up from the flop is the correct card (note that this will be the card to the dealer's left if the dealer peals the deck and spreads in the standard "face down one at a time, turn over all three, then spread left to right" manner). That card would be placed face up on top the deck and used as the next burn.

A related problem you will see far more often is a four card flop. In this case the flop (and usually burn depending on the rulebook) must be picked up and re-shuffled because there is no sure-fire way to know if or what cards were stuck together when the flop was put down and spread.

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Old 12-30-2005, 03:37 PM
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A related problem you will see far more often is a four card flop. In this case the flop (and usually burn depending on the rulebook) must be picked up and re-shuffled because there is no sure-fire way to know if or what cards were stuck together when the flop was put down and spread.


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I don't understand this. When dealing the Flop I deal three cards straight down, if two cards stick together so that in fact i have dealt four cards, the top card on that pile is always the fourth card regardless of where in the pile the cards stuck together. and the way I spread the flop the top card is the card on the left most of the flop. Finding the correct burn should be very easy as long as the dealer follows procedure.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:47 PM
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A related problem you will see far more often is a four card flop. In this case the flop (and usually burn depending on the rulebook) must be picked up and re-shuffled because there is no sure-fire way to know if or what cards were stuck together when the flop was put down and spread.


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I don't understand this. When dealing the Flop I deal three cards straight down, if two cards stick together so that in fact i have dealt four cards, the top card on that pile is always the fourth card regardless of where in the pile the cards stuck together. and the way I spread the flop the top card is the card on the left most of the flop. Finding the correct burn should be very easy as long as the dealer follows procedure.

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Not necessarily. Imagine the top 4 cards are ABCD, in that order. If you put down the correct cards, you put A down first, then B on top, then C. If two cards stick together, you have the following possibilities (top to bottom): D, C, AB; D, BC, A; CD, B, A. There's no way of knowing which of the top two cards is correct.
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Old 12-30-2005, 04:09 PM
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A related problem you will see far more often is a four card flop. In this case the flop (and usually burn depending on the rulebook) must be picked up and re-shuffled because there is no sure-fire way to know if or what cards were stuck together when the flop was put down and spread.


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I don't understand this. When dealing the Flop I deal three cards straight down, if two cards stick together so that in fact i have dealt four cards, the top card on that pile is always the fourth card regardless of where in the pile the cards stuck together. and the way I spread the flop the top card is the card on the left most of the flop. Finding the correct burn should be very easy as long as the dealer follows procedure.

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Not necessarily. Imagine the top 4 cards are ABCD, in that order. If you put down the correct cards, you put A down first, then B on top, then C. If two cards stick together, you have the following possibilities (top to bottom): D, C, AB; D, BC, A; CD, B, A. There's no way of knowing which of the top two cards is correct.

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I got it now. the fourth card could stick to the bottom of the third.
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