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Old 07-22-2005, 04:35 AM
krazyace5 krazyace5 is offline
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Default AA/KK-whats the longest they were losers for you?

AA- my last 63 times dealt resulted in a total loss of $63.05

KK-24 times this week for a total loss of $12.07

Whats the longest some of you have gone with these hands in the red?
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Old 07-22-2005, 05:53 AM
DrPublo DrPublo is offline
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Default Re: AA/KK-whats the longest they were losers for you?

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AA- my last 63 times dealt resulted in a total loss of $63.05

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I don't believe this. What stakes are you playing?

The Doc
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Old 07-22-2005, 06:53 AM
BZ_Zorro BZ_Zorro is offline
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Default Re: AA/KK-whats the longest they were losers for you?

Longest losing streak: 3 in a row with AA, 4 in a row with KK. These are one offs though, mostly it's a single bit of red in a sea of green. I pick up a lot (maybe half) of pots without showdown.

For comparison:
39K hands at Party(25-200NL, mostly(32K) at 100NL):

AA 168 times, 4.52 PTBB/hand, won 90%
KK 184 times, 2.79 PTBB/hand, won 81%
QQ 179 times, 1.20 PTBB/hand, won 67%

You definitely shouldn't be showing a loss after that many hands...the only possibility is that you're playing them incorrectly. Maybe post a few random losing hands?
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:34 PM
krazyace5 krazyace5 is offline
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Default Re: AA/KK-whats the longest they were losers for you?

$50 nl 6 max

I did not lose them all it's just that they all added up to a total loss.

Just rechecked, it was 63 AA for a loss of $40.57

AA dealt 37x just this week for a loss of $22.22
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:36 PM
krazyace5 krazyace5 is offline
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Default Re: AA/KK-whats the longest they were losers for you?

Any hand convertors work anymore? I have tried ponks but have no idea how to get the hands into his converter.
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: AA/KK-whats the longest they were losers for you?

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AA- my last 63 times dealt resulted in a total loss of $63.05

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wow.
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Old 07-22-2005, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: AA/KK-whats the longest they were losers for you?

I registered for this site specifically to respond to this question.

Have patience: according to Poker Tracker, I am negative $432 with AA in my last 16,000 hands. Anecdotally, 5 of the last six times I have gotten my whole stack in preflop they've been cracked.

Admittedly, some of this negative value was caused by boneheaded pushes up against sets after the flop. But it has been a very long, very bad run.

Hope yours isn't.
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Old 07-22-2005, 10:05 PM
bigt2k4 bigt2k4 is offline
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Default Re: AA/KK-whats the longest they were losers for you?

its obvious u guys have no clue how to fold these hands, if u think theyre that gr8 and cant fold them after the flop raise huge preflop with them, that will @ least make them profitable for u
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Old 07-22-2005, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: AA/KK-whats the longest they were losers for you?

Post your biggest losses with AA/KK where most of the money didn't go in preflop.
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Old 07-22-2005, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: AA/KK-whats the longest they were losers for you?

AA 68 times, 82% winrate, 6.79 PTBB/hand
KK 52 times, 84% winrate, 8.71 PTBB/hand
QQ 60 times, 74% winrate, 4.42 PTBB/hand

There is no way you should be losing with these hands if you are playing them correctly.
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