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Old 12-20-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default $11: Risking too much with jacks on level 3?

I'm starting to think that almost all of my hand help request posts are pretty obvious, and that I'm doing the right things, but I'm too results oriented to see it.

I'm results oriented because the results have not been so good. I usually go through all my hand histories but rarely find anything stupid. There must be some leaks that I'm not aware of, but I just can't find them. So instead I end up posting another semi-meaningless hand like this [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] .

So, here we go:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO (t1295)
Button (t805)
Hero (t1050)
BB (t1140)
UTG (t215)
UTG+1 (t720)
MP1 (t1415)
MP2 (t655)
MP3 (t705)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero raises [t1050]

Standard? This was not the first minraise from the mighty minraiser, so I was not really scared of him and the calling didn't show much strenght either. So I figured I have the best hand here and pushed hoping to take the pot right here.

I do this everytime with stacks around 600 on level 3, but is my stack this time too big to risk this early?

- Begbie
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: $11: Risking too much with jacks on level 3?

you have the best hand here almost all the time and I don't want to play JJ OOP on the flop. i'll push
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: $11: Risking too much with jacks on level 3?

About 25% of your stack is sitting there waiting for you. Go get it.

Standard.

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Old 12-20-2005, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: $11: Risking too much with jacks on level 3?

Well, with JJ, I'll pay 75 chips to take a look at the flop instead. Too many coinflips, too many overcards. With QQ, I'd push.
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: $11: Risking too much with jacks on level 3?

yes, exactly.

when it's so cheap for you to see the flop, and you'll be first to act, if you really want to push that shouldn't be a problem.

however, if the flop you see comes AK2 with some suit coordination, i think you'll be happy you just called.
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: $11: Risking too much with jacks on level 3?

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however, if the flop you see comes AK2 with some suit coordination, i think you'll be happy you just called.

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Same if it comes AJ8 and your opponent has 88, A8/AJ/AT and woulda folded preflop.
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: $11: Risking too much with jacks on level 3?

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however, if the flop you see comes AK2 with some suit coordination, i think you'll be happy you just called.

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Same if it comes AJ8 and your opponent has 88, A8/AJ/AT and woulda folded preflop.

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hell of a point.
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: $11: Risking too much with jacks on level 3?

Or if the flop comes 832r, you bet and get called down with AA or KK. Don't push here, call and play some poker. Learn how to get away from JJ if the flop betting is insane.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: $11: Risking too much with jacks on level 3?

If this guy has mini-raised before, I push this.

All the talk about re-evaluating on the flop ignores some key points, IMO:

1) You have alot of FE

2) You likely have way the best hand (if he's a frequent mini-raiser)

3) "Re-evaluating on the flop" is another way of saying "possibly fold the best hand when an over hits"

4) By calling, you're asking for a call from the BB as well

5) It's an 11! You might get called by hands that you utterly destroy.

6) By pushing now, you might slow this idiot down and stop him from mini-raising so much
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:35 AM
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Default Re: $11: Risking too much with jacks on level 3?

This push is extremely easy, in my opinion. Virtually automatic.
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