the perfect storm, not blowing my way.

[bholdr]

two hands here, same table, same opponent, about five minutes apart, conspired to rob me of most of a buy in, something that hasn't happened in a long time...

from memory, so only the important details:

Crypto 1/2 stud .25 ante .50 bring in

seat1 [xx]Js
seat2 [xx]4h
seat3 [xx]?
hero [Kd Ah] Kh
seat5 [xx] Qh
seat6 [xx]?

seat1 ________call
seat2 bringsin___call
seat3 call________fold
hero raise
seat5 call
seat6 fold

Seat1 [xx]Js Qs ________re-raise
Seat2 [xx]4h 8h _________fold
Hero [Kd Ah] Kh 6s bets____call
Seat5 [xx] Qh Td raise___call

Ok, what's going on... i am now confused, i'd had seat 1 read as a rock, but he's now betting... a four flush? two pair (unlikely, imo)... seat 5 is a LAG hack, i'm not worried about him yet.

Seat 1 [xx]Js Qs Ks_____raise
Hero [Kd Ah] Kh 6s 2d____fold
Seat5 [xx] Qh Td Qd bets__call

so i've gotta fold, this, right? i, mean, i've got live aces, but dying kings, a very probable straight or flush out already, and at least two pair coming from seat 5, right?


anywhoo, seat 5 check called all the way down after that and his naked pair of queens took it. seat one had THREE to a Sf, that's IT! D'oh! i did make the right fold, though, right? right? i have an disproportionate fear of being weak/tight...

ok ok, now i'm thinking seat 1 is a mainiac. i hadn't gotten a good read before because i'd only been at that table for like ten hands, but now i know. time to sit and wait for the big ones...
five minutes later....

Seat one [xx]7h bring in____call
Seat two [xx]9d call_________call
Seat three[xx]? fold
Hero [Qd Qh] Jd raise
seat five fold
seat six fold

4th:

Seat one [xx] 7h 9h Call
Seat two [xx] 9d J Fold
Hero [Qd Qh] Jd As Bet

all going according to the script...
5th:

Seat 1 [xx] 7h 9h 7s bet____re-raise____call
Hero [Qh Qd] Jd As Qc raise___re-raise
keep in mind that this is crypto, so no cap HU...

6th:
Seat 1: [xx] 7h 9h 7s Kc____check____raise_____re-raise
Hero: [Qd Qh] Jd As Qc 2c____bet______re-raise___huh? call.

7th:
Seat 1: [xx]7 9 7 K [x] bet_____re-raise_____re-raise
Hero [QQ] J A Q 2 [2] raise____re-raise_____call

final pot: @28BB

I was a little scared of Kings full on the end, but he just called instead of reraiseing on third, and i thought 777 was his hand, or, if i was really lucky, 7's full.

results and a queation in white:
<font color="white"> Seat 1 shows 7777. dammit. my question is this: how could i have gotten away from this hand? imay have been able to just check-call onmn 6th and 7th, MAYBE, had he not displayed some mainiacal play on that other hand. was i too aggressive? to loose? did i get OUTPLAYED (he said: 'had it on 5th'- i don't know if i buy that.)? what?
...or did i just get fisted by the stud gods on these two? </font>

[Andy B]

Before reading the results, I lay down the first hand on fifth as well. You should be crushed. On the second hand, I think you put in the appropriate amount of action. You're representing something that beats Sevens-full, and opponent is telling you that he has more than that.

[Andy B]

Comment on the results, also in white:

<font color="white">Sometimes you just have to lose a lot of chips on a hand. If you're up against someone who is hopelessly weak-tight and won't put in big action without a monster, maybe you save a bet or two, but really, if you can't put in a lot of money with Queens-full, you can't play. </font>

[bholdr]

you're right, looking at from a couple hours away, it's just some bad luck/beats.

i really had a feeling that i'd screwed something up after that session. feels like i got milked, reads were of, play was transparent, etc. i'll just throw these in the 'cost of doing business' file and be done with it.

[7stud]

The way I see it, this was your 'conversation':

In white:
<font color="white">
5th:

you: I can beat your possible trip sevens. Raise.
him: Possible?? I really have them, and I don't think you would have raised on 3rd with a straigh draw. Reraise.
you: Ha, ha. You are right! I didn't have a straight draw, and I don't have a straight now--but I can beat your trip sevens. Reraise you back.
him: Ooops! Ok, I call (assumed since he can't reraise you).

6th:

him: Ok, I'll check to the last raise.
you: I told you: I can beat trip 7's. Bet.
him: Ha ha! I made a full house, which can beat any higher trips you might have. I know you can't have a full house with no pairs showing on 6th street. I check raise you. What a sweet play!
you: What? I can't hear you--my favorite song is playing on my Ipod:.... I'm a maniac... maniiiiac.' Reraise.
him: Wow! You can't have me beat. Reraise.
you: What???! Great song! I reraise...ooops, there are only 3 raises allowed. Ok, I call. What a pot! I can't wait to tell my girlfriend about my trip queens!

7th:

you: Bingo! Queens full!! I can't lose....I'm a maniaaac....
him: Bet.
you: Raise. I filled up. Suck on those trip 7's. (Luxuriating in a rush of endorphins, you turn up the volume on your Ipod.)
him: I can beat a full house. Reraise.
you: What? I'm a maniaaaac....Maaaaniac. Reraise.
him: Wow. Did you make quads? Maybe I should just call you. Hidden quads....hhhmm. I'll try one more raise. Reraise.
you: What the??!! (as you quickly turn the volume off on your Ipod). What's going on? Did you make Kings full? Uh oh..something doesn't feel right. I call.

Tough one to lose...but I think you could have saved yourself a couple of bets. The question is not whether you can get away from your hand, but whether you lost less than your opponent would have lost with a similar hand.</font>

[bholdr]

That's funny, man [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]. but almost exactly right...

and in white <font color="white"> What's with all the text in white? am i missing something? I'm a maniaaaac....Maaaaniac. now i've gonna that damn song running through my head all night. </font>