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Old 12-20-2005, 12:37 PM
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Obviously if he has an 8, pushing is great, but you'd get all-in on the river anyway. I think an overpair is more likely though. I'd go with 650 or 700, and I agree that raising the flop is good, because it's hard to put you on a big hand there.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:47 PM
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You could do lots of different things..depends on your opponent, what your read was, things like that...

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Very useful. Have you considered writing a book?
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:04 PM
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mmmmm i guess he calls most pairs and sometimes A high, but I'd really like to get paid off on the river here with a value bet of around 600
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Old 12-20-2005, 01:09 PM
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Hmmm yes I admit I have paid off a quads overbet with the full house before....
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:20 PM
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To me it seems like you let him off real easy, you tell him you have quads here with that bet. I would value bet the river around 400-600 depending on the player
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:24 PM
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If he has an 8, pushing is great. He obviously doesn't fold it.

I would be very surprised if he has an 8 though. I would bet around $450. I'd say whatever you bet here it's pretty obvious you are full so I'd go small and try and eke value from his overpair.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:28 PM
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To me it seems like you let him off real easy, you tell him you have quads here with that bet. I would value bet the river around 400-600 depending on the player

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So you lay down an 8 on an 88622 board every time somebody pushes? Good to know.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:29 PM
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if he thinks you are good and capable of making moves i like a turn raise representing an 8 because most good players in your spot will not have an 8 here and he knows that. call, call, river push on drawless board looks a tad strong.
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Old 12-20-2005, 05:00 PM
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Overbetting the hell out of quads when the board is double-paired is so obvious that I'd call it "standard" if it came up more than once every billion hands. I've seen this situation three times and never NOT seen a big overbet by quads...each time a boat paid off.


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Old 12-20-2005, 05:38 PM
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If he has an 8, pushing is great. He obviously doesn't fold it.

I would be very surprised if he has an 8 though. I would bet around $450. I'd say whatever you bet here it's pretty obvious you are full so I'd go small and try and eke value from his overpair.

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This is the only thing that meaks sense to me. Why put him to the test with a huge over bet? I'd be a happy with a call for the minimum he'd call with.
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