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Push 17 27.87%
Fold 34 55.74%
Call 10 16.39%
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:37 AM
VanVeen VanVeen is offline
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I'm having a disagreement with a friend of mine. Help us out.

Earlier this morning I typed this sentence into mIRC: "it is a closed causal system - mental states cannot effect physical states". The implication was that mental states are instantiated by physical states in the brain; physical states are not effected by mental states.

Philosophy aside, please answer the following question:
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:46 AM
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To affect something is to have an effect on it: Smoking can affect your health. To effect something is to make it happen: The doctor's treatment effected an immediate improvement in the patient's health. Affect is often used instead of effect, so take care when you are writing.

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Googled quick for that answer... basic english.

Why isnt it affect ?. I need sleep, I could care less how the english labguage works.

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Old 07-12-2005, 09:49 AM
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I misclicked the poll, so subtract one from affect and add it into effect when you do an official tally, please.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:50 AM
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The correct answer here is "effect."
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:59 AM
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The correct answer here is "effect."

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Old 07-12-2005, 10:02 AM
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affect = verb
effect = noun
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:04 AM
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Effect n.
Affect v.

Correct answer is Affect.
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:05 AM
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affect = verb
effect = noun

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not untrue, but also true is:

effect = verb
affect = noun

EDIT: Effect is correct here
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:05 AM
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LOL
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Old 07-12-2005, 10:06 AM
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affect = verb
effect = noun

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No, this isn't correct at all (you're clearly intending to imply that 'affect' has no noun form and 'effect' has no verb form). They can both be used as ns. and tr. verbs and the usage of both forms of both words is different.
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