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Old 12-13-2005, 01:53 AM
inyaface inyaface is offline
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Default Re: $109\'s... I\'m out for dead presidents to represent me

A NORMAL NON DONK would have no less then 10 10 + and aq suited + and I think thats very generous. I would say probably looking at JJ+ and AK and you can probably take JJ out of there. Against a bad player you could be looking at something like 55+, any ace kj sooted and a whole other variety of junk. I think the preflop action on the hand where he got the 600 chips is very imporant. If it was opened and he made an ak tptk its very different then if he called a raise and made a kq tptk.
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: $109\'s... I\'m out for dead presidents to represent me

Even in the $109s I have to have a read to let one person (button calling doesn't scare me) make me fold QQ preflop. AK is probably the most likely hand, but I think QQ- is substantially more likely than KK+.
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: $109\'s... I\'m out for dead presidents to represent me

Push. There are plenty of donks in the 1st level at the 109s to make this a profitable situation. I don't think he would reraise to 700 with AA, probably more like 450 or 400. I'm definitely not folding here.
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:31 AM
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Call, it's only 1 raise over 1 limper, if he can have JJ and AK (including offsuit) only you should call... (47% equity plus dead money)... any wider and it's a really clear call.
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: $109\'s... I\'m out for dead presidents to represent me

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Call, it's only 1 raise over 1 limper, if he can have JJ and AK (including offsuit) only you should call... (47% equity plus dead money)... any wider and it's a really clear call.

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Yeah, but there isn't much dead money, and that seems like a pretty small edge to take this early on... Am I missing something?
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:33 AM
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Call, it's only 1 raise over 1 limper, if he can have JJ and AK (including offsuit) only you should call... (47% equity plus dead money)... any wider and it's a really clear call.

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Yeah, but there isn't much dead money, and that seems like a pretty small edge to take this early on... Am I missing something?

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Yea, what you're missing is that a huge % of the time he can have TT and 99 and AQs...
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:42 AM
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ahhh
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:43 AM
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Not sure why people are telling you to fold I would never ever fold this against an unknown. There are like 2 215ers I would fold this to.. maybe...
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:48 AM
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Not sure why people are telling you to fold I would never ever fold this against an unknown. There are like 2 215ers I would fold this to.. maybe...

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Don't worry, I didn't, but I thought there might be some debate. This also is a seguay to my next question... JJ?
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: $109\'s... I\'m out for dead presidents to represent me

JJ is much more opponent dependant id want to see the hand he picked up 600 chips on.
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