Players who don't show their cards on the river

[DavidC]

I have a pet peeve.

I HATE it when people bet the river, and then slow down the game by saying stuff like, "Can you beat a queen?" Etc.

1) I don't like them slowing down the game.
2) When they bet and they're called I think I have "the right" to see it.

How do I discourage my opponents from doing this without alienating myself?

[csuf_gambler]

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2) When they bet and they're called I think I have "the right" to see it.



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you do not have this "right". the rule is there to prevent collusion.


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How do I discourage my opponents from doing this without alienating myself?

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you can't. stop crying and deal with it. it's one of the cons of playing live. like when idiots ask for deck changes, you can't stop them.

[FatMan]

The aggressor shows their hand first. Other players either show their hands or muck them in order around the table. If it is checked down all the way, the player closest to the button shows first then other players can show or muck in order around the table. Simple as that

[DavidC]

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2) When they bet and they're called I think I have "the right" to see it.



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you do not have this "right". the rule is there to prevent collusion.


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You might be misunderstanding me.

Player A bets the river, Player B calls, Player A talks to player B, Player B shows his cards. Player A mucks.

It sucks.

[Glenn]

say "show or muck"

[Barry]

If you're player B, just say "I called you" and wait for him to table his hand. He's the one being the dick.

If you're not in the hand than you have no rights.

[DavidC]

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you can't. stop crying and deal with it. it's one of the cons of playing live. like when idiots ask for deck changes, you can't stop them.

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You're wrong about that.

[DavidC]

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say "show or muck"

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I'm sitting at the table, unfortunately.
Edit: I'm sitting, but not the player who's the river caller.

When I'm in the hand, I just sit there and wait. I don't bother to talk to them about it.

[DavidC]

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The aggressor shows their hand first. Other players either show their hands or muck them in order around the table. If it is checked down all the way, the player closest to the button shows first then other players can show or muck in order around the table. Simple as that

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That's the theory, and I like it (with one exception: if there was any aggression at any point during the hand, I want that person to show first, regardless of whether or not the river was checked through (this could be a preflop raised if it were checked to the river)).

However, if there's a player who bets the river and hesitates before showing, trying not to, every time he's at the showdown and unsure of his cards, how do you get that guy to show his cards first, without alienating yourself?

[Barry]

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That's the theory, and I like it (with one exception: if there was any aggression at any point during the hand, I want that person to show first, regardless of whether or not the river was checked through (this could be a preflop raised if it were checked to the river)).



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Then you should play in AC. They have "the last aggressor shows first" rule there.

If the same guy keeps up the I don't want to show nonsense, you can either ask the dealer to remind him or you should learn to just deal with it.