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Old 12-02-2004, 09:52 AM
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I just got a magazine from empire poker (normal mail, not email) where there is Brad Daugherty giving a starting hand chart seat by seat, and how to play them in different situations. There is also an article on pokernow's front page (link) that has a high quality preflop strategy from most it covers (it took three years in my past before I knew that accurately, and I had to work for it). The poker room by my ethics should be neutral, just offering the games, and not teach worse opponents play better, that's like the dealer tipping some player how he should play or there being an advisor option one can put on to tell when the move disagrees with the advisor. That article then points to empirepokerschool.com to learn more. It's very nice when the relatively new player gets his magazine and gets to upgrade his play for the next time he shows up. Parties have not been completely neutral before this either.
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Old 12-02-2004, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: Parties collude with worse players

A few other sites also have strategy guides vc for example, its in the sites interest to have players improving and playing better as they want to increase their regular player base and have people not losing loads of money and not playing again.

I dont see how its an ethics issue though, like many people offering a service they are giving advice on how to get the best from the service, as long as they dont introduce help at the table it should not effect the quality of the games.

I suspect many people will not use it anyway as they know best.
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Old 12-02-2004, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: Parties collude with worse players

These things can swing both ways too as the advice is often terrible - I recall an issue of TGC's magazine which advised players to play all pocket pairs at least to the turn regardless of how many bets/raises had occurred.

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Old 12-02-2004, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Parties collude with worse players

If poor players learn to play marginally better, and lose less slowly, they are more likely to play longer (not during a single session, but during their lifetime) and lose more money in the long run. This is a good thing.
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Old 12-02-2004, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: Parties collude with worse players

Most B&M poker rooms I've been to, supply free Cardplayer or similar magazines containing articles written by poker authorities.
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Old 12-02-2004, 12:14 PM
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Just about all B&M joints offer any player "lessons" in any game in the place. Craps, BJ, etc. In fact, most live-game dealers will routinely offer advice to players who are receptive to it. You will often see BJ dealers admonish a player who makes a foolish play. It is in the casino's interest to have good players play. They last longer and generate more profit for the casino.

To begrudge advice to newbies on proper play seems to me to be short-sighted on your part. This "free" advice is usually worth just a shade more than paid, and may make the newbie a little more predictable to play with. I've paid for a lot of books on poker, have read and re-read most of them and doubt that a few paragraphs in some throw-away will seriously affect my earnings from any LP-P I meet at a table. It may encourage some to seek more info, but I don't think I will burn down any bookstores or publishing house just so my prospective opponents can't get access to information.

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Old 12-02-2004, 12:17 PM
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Yes I remeber that issue, however the one in the Empire magazine looked good, had hand ranking table and about 4 pages of detail, however I could not be bothered to read it to see how good the advice was.
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Old 12-02-2004, 12:19 PM
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Yes I remeber that issue, however the one in the Empire magazine looked good, had hand ranking table and about 4 pages of detail, however I could not be bothered to read it to see how good the advice was.

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If it's anything like the pokerNOW advice, it is HORRIBLE
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