River Value Bet?

GTSamIAm · #1 07-05-2005, 08:04 PM

Should I gone for the river value bet? I bet the turn to prevent free cards for flush draws. My logic at the time of river checking is thinking no hand is going to call me that I beat with the flush draw. My range of calling hands was K good kicker to A moderate kicker. A bad range to value bet into. Is this thinking correct?

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks.

Turn: (2 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

River: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 5 BB

Nfinity · #2 07-05-2005, 08:15 PM

I'm thinking maybe a raise Pre-Flop is in order.

I like everything else. The pot is really small on the River, and while I don't think your behind enough to not bet out, because of the small pot your probably folding to a raise. I believe a check/call is in order.

davelin · #3 07-05-2005, 08:16 PM

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I bet the turn to prevent free cards for flush draws.

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Or because with the flop checked around your pair of K's may be best. I'd bet the river.

davelin · #4 07-05-2005, 08:16 PM

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I'm thinking maybe a raise Pre-Flop is in order.

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I disagree.

GTSamIAm · #5 07-05-2005, 08:27 PM

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Or because with the flop checked around your pair of K's may be best.

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I agree. For clarification, what range of hands are calling the river?

davelin · #6 07-05-2005, 08:34 PM

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Or because with the flop checked around your pair of K's may be best.

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I agree. For clarification, what range of hands are calling the river?

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A worse kicker, an 8, 7, 6 or pocket pair.

GTSamIAm · #7 07-05-2005, 08:34 PM

Weak aces aren't in there?

Nfinity · #8 07-05-2005, 08:54 PM

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Weak aces aren't in there?

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An average micro-limit player would have bet that flop when checked to with an Ace.

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I'm thinking maybe a raise Pre-Flop is in order.

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I disagree.

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I understand what your saying I think. IF we do have an edge here, then it's probably pretty small. I was thinking more along the lines of driving out the BB, or at least not giving him a cheap flop, but the idea of getting a cheap flop with KJo yourself probably outweighs that logic.

For the record are you just calling KQo here as well?

Are you folding to a River raise?

AngelicPenguin · #9 07-05-2005, 08:57 PM

I don't think UTG+1 or CO has an A because I think they would have bet the flop. Once BB dumps the turn (my only weak A candidate), I'm betting the river.

davelin · #10 07-05-2005, 09:30 PM

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Weak aces aren't in there?

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Sure it's possible but given the flop action not likely.