KK on a friendly board, when to take foot off gas?

nsdjoe · #1 05-23-2005, 04:11 PM

Per PokerTracker, UTG+1 is TAG

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG caps, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (15.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 19.75 BB

How would y'all have played this one?

scotty34 · #2 05-23-2005, 04:16 PM

The stop n go's always look suspicious to me. They never seem to have any consistency with what they mean. I think the turn raise is probably fine, but I would just call the river bet.

@bsolute_luck · #3 05-23-2005, 04:16 PM

probably on the river raise i guess. only preflop capping hand we beat at this point are AK and QQ.

Jaran · #4 05-23-2005, 04:17 PM

I think you played the hand fine. The only street I might play differently is the river, simply because the sng on every street is a little wierd, and a 3bet would suck. But most likely he has QQ and is worried about your KK,AA, but doesn't want to give a free card to AK,AQ.

-Jaran

topspin · #5 05-23-2005, 04:18 PM

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UTG+1 is TAG

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Might want to rethink that read; there is pretty much no hand that UTG+1 could have that is correct to play this way.

I play the same as you up to the river, where I'd just call hoping to induce an overcall from UTG. The only reasonable hand you're ahead of is QQ; more often I think you're splitting with another KK or losing to AA. If UTG overcalls, you're winning the same as if you raise and UTG folds, and you don't risk getting 3-bet with a hand you're going to have to show down.

shadow29 · #6 05-23-2005, 04:20 PM

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I think you played the hand fine. The only street I might play differently is the river, simply because the sng on every street is a little wierd, and a 3bet would suck. But most likely he has QQ and is worried about your KK,AA, but doesn't want to give a free card to AK,AQ.

-Jaran

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Welcome back, sir.

I play this hand the same way. Especially seeing he doesn't 3-bet the river.

droolie · #7 05-23-2005, 04:20 PM

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Per PokerTracker, UTG+1 is TAG

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No he's not. LOL. He donked you twice.

I can't really think what villian could possibly have here that he would play it like this. UTG looks to be on a flush draw. This is just weird. It looks like villian likes his hand and wants you to help him protect it. I'm guessing a big pocket pair. I probably play it the same but sometimes I'll call the river because two of the three pocket pairs we have covered just made a set. I really don't think he's got AA or else he would've three bet us.

nsdjoe · #8 05-23-2005, 04:23 PM

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I really don't think he's got AA or else he would've three bet us.

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Couldn't quite believe it myself when i saw it.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG caps, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (15.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 19.75 BB

Results in white below: 
UTG+1 has Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
Hero has Kd Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 19.75 BB.

BluEsiNsOuL · #9 05-23-2005, 05:22 PM

That was so weird.. maybe he was tired.

gopnik · #10 05-23-2005, 05:42 PM

I think I am just calling the river. I'd play the rest the same.