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[aflaba temp]

Important hand:

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero ...

SB has VPIP=60 PFR=1 AF=0.7 ... after 80 hands

Does your answer change if I have 800 hands of stats on him?



Less important hand:

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], X[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero ...

How do you play this hand depending on what card X is? The field is fairly loose aggressive.

[Lurker4]

first hand: 60/1/.7 usually means loose-passive, not LAG. I don't think loose-passives lead this flop w/just a gutter or flush draw. Especially since you don't have the Kc, I fold. Against a LAG, or w/the Kc, I at least call and evaluate the turn card/action.

second hand: Against LAGs, I bet if X is &lt;= 7, check and evaluate action behind me if X &gt;= 9 (possibly c/r a LP bet depending on read), and most likely check/fold if X = A or K, depending on what happens on the flop

[meow_meow]

hand 1...either you are way behind or marginally ahead. Anyone who is 60/1 after 80 hands isn't likely tricky enough to be making a move here. Caller might have a flush draw, or might call down with a weak A.
I guess I'm folding.

hand 2....If X&lt;7, I going for a cr on the flop to thin the field, bet out the turn. if X&gt;9, I'm probably check-folding. I'm folding in either case if it's 2 bets back to me.

[aflaba temp]

First hand every part of my body exept for my calling finger wanted to fold. Here I need to be ahead, what? I never fold these though. But as of today I will start to.

Second hand. X &gt; 8 and I think it's a clear check-fold? X &lt; 7 and I either bet out or c/r.

[Guy McSucker]

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Second hand. X &gt; 8 and I think it's a clear check-fold?


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Eh?

Say X is a Q. Why on earth do you think anyone has an 8 or Q? There are only five of them to go around. I also doubt anyone has 99 or better. Bet it.

Guy.