Getting thrown out of a Vegas poker room

[jaydub]

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Ok, this is taking a wrong turn.

1. I am a jerk / tool whatever, I know this, thank you all for reminding of this.
2. I was not berating. An old nit who was horrible for the game found himself with a nickname. I will make players bad for the game feel uncomfortable, players good for the game feel welcome, this is standard. See point #1 if you do not like this.
3. With the collusion, I did not berate, my response was something like "what the [censored], that is [censored] you cheating [censored]", again standard. They know I know and I know they know I know or such.
4. I am a drunk not an alcholic, alcoholics go to meetings. My behavior with zero drinks actually may have been much worse. See point #1.

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since it's clear that you and some others don't know what "berate" actuatlly means, here's a hint:

berate: to scold severely; upbraid.
upbraid: to reproach or criticize harshly.
reproach: to rebuke, blame, or shame.

if you don't believe that #3 counts (and arguably #2 as well) as berating, you have more problems than i already thought.

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Is that you old man winter? I had no idea you were a 2er.

But seriously, thank you for your thoughts but as you have zero value to add to this thread, please stop posting to it. Thank you.

[MRBAA]

Remember the Jim Rome/Jim Everett interview where he kept calling him "Chris Everett" and finally Jim Everett came after him? If we're playing poker, I guarantee I can get you riled with just non obscene words. Whether it's going ethnic, going appearence, going age,sexuality or whatever else you may be sensitive about. It's not hard to raise someone's blood pressure -- stopping when it's clear that banter has begun to get someone enraged is something I've done loads of times in casino games. I don't want to play at tables where everyone is nuts -- even if there may be some short term value in tilting opponents, the long term value to my enjoyment of the game and expectation is negative. Again, it's just common sense.

[ononimo]

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Is that you old man winter? I had no idea you were a 2er.

But seriously, thank you for your thoughts but as you have zero value to add to this thread, please stop posting to it. Thank you.

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i just taught you what the word "berate" actually means since you clearly had no idea ... there's plenty of "value" right there. or do you need a definition for that word too?

are you actually trying to deny that your actions don't meet those definitions?

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if you don't believe that #3 counts (and arguably #2 as well) as berating, you have more problems than i already thought.

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#3 was definitely berating. i do know what berating means. there was not specific evidence prior to this that he actually berated a anyone.

[CrazyEyez]

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But seriously, thank you for your thoughts but as you have zero value to add to this thread, please stop posting to it. Thank you.

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Your OP adds almost zero value to this forum. It seems like you're merely looking for attention, just like at the tables.

Your question and, I assume, the point of your post:

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Is either case really such that they'd kick a player out?

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Obviously not, since they didn't kick you out.

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I would think a player would need multiple visits from the floor before getting tossed for language / abuse.


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I think common sense would tell you that it depends on the severity of the language/abuse and depends on the card room management. What they tolerate varies widely. But since there are a lot of drunk attention whores like yourself at the tables these days, I doubt that what you did would result in being thrown out in very many places unless you continued after being warned.

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I am also far from sober so I make my feelings known with a few f-bombs thrown in. <snip> Floor is not called cause both players were terrible and I did not want a scene

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haha

[phish]

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Abusing other players is unacceptable -- including calling someone a silly nickname. Cursing I feel less strongly about when it's just "Oh [censored]" and not directed at someone.

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I completely agree with the second part of this, but you really consider referring to someone as "old man winter" abuse? If so, you're as nitty as he is.

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Calling him 'old man winter' is okay, until the point when he makes it known that he doesn't like it. After that it is abuse, and he should be ejected.
If I ran a cardroom, I would have 0 tolerance for any type of impolite behavior. It's amazing how well people behave when they know it won't be tolerated. Just go to any European cardroom. Such a breath of fresh air from American ones.

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Remember the Jim Rome/Jim Everett interview where he kept calling him "Chris Everett" and finally Jim Everett came after him? If we're playing poker, I guarantee I can get you riled with just non obscene words. Whether it's going ethnic, going appearence, going age,sexuality or whatever else you may be sensitive about. It's not hard to raise someone's blood pressure -- stopping when it's clear that banter has begun to get someone enraged is something I've done loads of times in casino games. I don't want to play at tables where everyone is nuts -- even if there may be some short term value in tilting opponents, the long term value to my enjoyment of the game and expectation is negative. Again, it's just common sense.

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This is all very reasonable, and I agree. I'm just saying there's a line. Obviously racial slurs or cursing are over that line. I don't think "old man winter" is over that line. It bothers me when people try to censor me by deciding the line is someplace ridiculous. I can't control everything people are sensitive about and people being nitty shouldn't be my problem. By the way, I'm actually pretty quiet at the table most of the time. I don't make up names for people, berate them or really talk other than pleasantries. I just thought calling this abuse seemed silly. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[timprov]

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Just go to any European cardroom. Such a breath of fresh air from American ones.

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Except, of course, literally.

#3 is berating, but is anyone seriously contending that berating colluders is out of line?

[Oblivious]

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I will make players bad for the game feel uncomfortable, players good for the game feel welcome,

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The problem with your behavior, is that it makes the players who are good for the game feel unwelcome, and will only antagonize those who are bad for the game to be worse for the game. It seems that you see yourself on the "good for the game" category, but you obviously are not.

[Oblivious]

There are better ways to deal with colluders... ways that will win you the respect of the floor and preserve a comfortable situation in the game.