KQo, 4 hearts on board

#1 12-02-2005, 09:16 PM

Villain unknown. Not sure if this is counts as a bluff or not, but is it a good turn/river play?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (6.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO folds.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Spicymoose · #2 12-02-2005, 09:19 PM

I check raise the flop. Given that you didn't, the turn lead is fine. Once you get to the river, I check/call. You arn't getting better hands to fold, and there is little little you are getting value out of. Better hands may be scared to valuebet, and you may induce a bluff.

#3 12-02-2005, 09:47 PM

what if the flop gets checked through? he may just try for a free card.

Spicymoose · #4 12-02-2005, 09:49 PM

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what if the flop gets checked through? he may just try for a free card.

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Hearts or pairs will almost always bet. You only have to fear a naked ace. They have 3 outs. Not much to fear.

#5 12-02-2005, 10:09 PM

fair enough. if he 3-bets flop, i'd call down unless another heart hits?

ArturiusX · #6 12-02-2005, 10:13 PM

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what if the flop gets checked through? he may just try for a free card.

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You'll never see the flop checked through ever here.

#7 12-02-2005, 10:15 PM

good point! i guess i was just trying to take control of the hand in a wa/wb situation. i could bluff to represent a better flush if he had a heart.

Spicymoose · #8 12-02-2005, 10:18 PM

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good point! i guess i was just trying to take control of the hand in a wa/wb situation. i could bluff to represent a better flush if he had a heart.

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wa/wb means you are either way ahead (opposition has virtually 0 outs), or way behind (you have virtually 0 outs). That is not the case here.

ArturiusX · #9 12-02-2005, 10:19 PM

This isnt WA/WB imo, unless the villian is a super tight raiser.

#10 12-02-2005, 10:32 PM

ok ok i give up :d