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Old 11-29-2005, 01:42 PM
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better suited for the final table??????

final table, a knockout blow is a must for both advancing in finishing place and accumulating chips.

Cant see this move being good at any point in tourny but most especially not at the final table.
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Old 11-29-2005, 01:47 PM
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Try to maximize your value with every hand. If he's good for a call with his last 400, go ahead and take those chips. As Exit said maybe at the final there is some rationale to this move where keeping an extreme low stack may force some players to tighten up a bit and wait for shorty to be eliminated and move up the prize ladder. This doesn't seem to be the case though.
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Old 11-29-2005, 01:53 PM
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exit stated "late in a tournament", NOT final table. late in a tournament is still a bad strategy since you want to reach final table with as big of a stack as you can and there is not guarantee that you will be the one to take the chips off him later. FINAL TABLE is where the money is at, this is a crucial mistake at the final table.
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Old 11-29-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: A ridiculous thought?

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better suited for the final table??????

final table, a knockout blow is a must for both advancing in finishing place and accumulating chips.

Cant see this move being good at any point in tourny but most especially not at the final table.

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Only in an extreme case, and even then, I don't think it can be any better than neutral.

Say you have 60000 chips, 8 very good players have 10000-45000 each, average say 20000, and the donkey has 1000. You're not really worried about busting out ahead of the donkey and his chips aren't that valuable to anyone, but if he sticks around and doubles up two or three times it's just as likely that he doubles through the other good players as you, but it hurts them worse. Depending on payouts you can also use his presence to pressure the others, although this is a separate issue.

Edit: This isn't an argument I'll defend to the death, just a thought...
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:04 PM
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I know we are just making some hypothetical observations here and it makes for interesting conversation i suppose, but why would we assume that we will automatically be the one to take his chips? Isnt it possible that this donk may also later take our chips? Final table, there is a lot of pushbotting, very likely that anything can happen. Eliminate this player now and not only to you gain strength in your stack size, but you have now just increased your odds of finishing 1st by eliminating number one a player and number two the possibility that some other player takes his chips. We can't seriously be considering the slim possiblity that he may double up later and then doubling up again a good enough reason to keep him around. With all the pushbotting this is actually a reason to take him out, not keep him in. chip accumulation is a HUGE must.
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