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Old 12-08-2005, 01:50 AM
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Default AJ, raise on any streets?

I'm having an awful job handling this hand converter. NL 25 on Party. Bought in a little bit ago, not much action and no reads on any of these people, besides they seem to play tight after the flop and that they are loose preflop. I checked in last position on the flop looking to get a free card for my gutshot. Thoughts on that?

***** Hand History for Game 3163698561 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Thu Dec 08 00:42:34 EST 2005
Table Table 66316 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: FGators26 ( $24.75)
Seat 2: golfbizo ( $16.40)
Seat 3: Atinob ( $13.95)
Seat 4: jrguertt ( $18.05)
Seat 5: LtTro5344 ( $7)
Seat 6: mgsmith ( $20.35)
Seat 7: dsmith5296 ( $23.07)
Seat 8: LilRascal23 ( $22.72)
Seat 9: themargin ( $25)
Seat 10: NewBOnTilt ( $15.55)
LtTro5344 posts small blind (0.10)
mgsmith posts big blind (0.25)
themargin posts big blind (0.25)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FGators26 [ Ah, Jc ]
LilRascal23 calls (0.25)
themargin checks.
NewBOnTilt calls (0.25)
FGators26 raises (1) to 1
golfbizo folds.
Atinob folds.
jrguertt folds.
LtTro5344 folds.
mgsmith calls (0.75)
LilRascal23 calls (0.75)
themargin folds.
NewBOnTilt calls (0.75)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Kh, 7h, Td ]
mgsmith checks.
LilRascal23 checks.
NewBOnTilt checks.
FGators26 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8h ]
mgsmith bets (0.50)
LilRascal23 calls (0.50)
NewBOnTilt calls (0.50)
FGators26 calls (0.50)
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
mgsmith bets (3)
LilRascal23 folds.
NewBOnTilt calls (3)
Hero?
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:10 AM
stu-unger stu-unger is offline
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Default Re: AJ, raise on any streets?

hmmm... preflop sucks. i probably fold, call or raise to 1.5 and in that order. im not sure that i call turn and i think it is safe to put in a value raise and fold to a push...
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: AJ, raise on any streets?

You can't call that turn for .50 cents into a pot with 4-5 bucks to hit the nut flush draw??
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: AJ, raise on any streets?

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You can't call that turn for .50 cents into a pot with 4-5 bucks to hit the nut flush draw??

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i didnt see the double draw, i call the turn and raise the river like i said originally...
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: AJ, raise on any streets?

Preflop, yuck. Use 4x+1 if you are going to raise. River for me is Call > Fold > Raise. You got the Ah. And you see a baby flush here enough, IMO, to just call.
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: AJ, raise on any streets?

do most people not even raise preflop or is it better to raise the 4x+1 method?
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Old 12-08-2005, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: AJ, raise on any streets?

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do most people not even raise preflop or is it better to raise the 4x+1 method?

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i normally fold in this spot, but a raise is fine as long as its big enough to serve a purpose...
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: AJ, raise on any streets?

You always fold AJo in MP? Can you explain why?
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: AJ, raise on any streets?

Alright, I guess the discussion is dying down a little. I'll post results a little down for those who don't want to know yet.






Villain shows QJ hearts for the flush and rakes in a nice sized pot. I guess I could have lost more. I would definitely have folded the turn if I didn't pick up the nut flush draw. Maybe I should have folded preflop. Is this always a check on the flop, when it's checked to me? I'm wanting to get a free card to hit my 4 outer there on the flop, right?
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:37 AM
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