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Old 11-29-2004, 12:08 AM
2PAUL2 2PAUL2 is offline
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Default TT hand

Hi all,

No real reads on either of the players so I really wasn't sure what to do with this one. I'll post my action after a few replies.

Paul

$25 PL Hold'em
Table Lightning Strikes (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: Hero ( $66.5 )
Seat 5: offsuitduck ( $57.45 )
Seat 10: MainEvent ( $51.4 )
Seat 6: muckrat ( $5.6 )
Seat 2: liedtke ( $35.6 )
Seat 3: RoyaIFlush ( $23.5 )
Seat 7: GoUofK ( $13.05 )
Seat 9: jc32192 ( $20 )
Seat 8: ckknight ( $5 )
Seat 1: dsonyx650 ( $24.5 )
offsuitduck posts small blind [$0.25].
>You have options at american nights Table!.
muckrat posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Tc Ts ]
GoUofK raises [$1.75].
ckknight folds.
jc32192 folds.
MainEvent folds.
dsonyx650 folds.
liedtke calls [$1.75].
RoyaIFlush folds.
Hero calls [$1.75].
offsuitduck calls [$1.5].
muckrat folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 8s, 8d ]
offsuitduck checks.
GoUofK bets [$3].
liedtke calls [$3].
Hero ?
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Old 11-29-2004, 01:03 AM
BlueBear BlueBear is offline
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Default Re: TT hand

Fold. Assuming the UTG has legitimate raising hands (AK and high pocket pairs), he/she will be more likely to hold a high pocket pair than an AK. Plus the fact that there is one caller so far and one more player left to act, TT does feel a bit shaky.

By the way, take a look at BisonBison's hand convertor as this will make the hand history more "pretty" and it will also remove the usernames of the players.
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Old 11-29-2004, 09:56 AM
2PAUL2 2PAUL2 is offline
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Default Re: TT hand

Thanks for the reply,

I did fold but I was actually more worried by the flat call than the preflop raisers bet, as he raised 3 into a pot that was just over 7 dollars which felt alot like missed overcards.

In the end the preflop raiser checked the turn and the other player bet 3 an took it down so know idea what he had. Just felt that after the weak turn action I might of been ahead afterall.

Paul

Sry, im a newbie. Ill use the converter next time.
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Old 11-29-2004, 11:48 AM
TakeMeToTheRiver TakeMeToTheRiver is offline
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Default Re: TT hand

I agree that the flat caller is more of an issue. If he had not called, I would definitely have raised the bettor all-in on the flop. His stack is very small and he is likely making a play at the pot. More often than not, you have him beat. I know he raised UTG -- but I am making the assumption, based on his small stack, that his UTG standards are not necessarily those of a rock. Ax or two face cards is more likely here than a big pocket pair.

As it is, with a cold caller, you are still stuck with raise or fold... I might have raised -- even with the two players -- but folding is also a fine decision. I think the cold caller could also have two over cards (or a draw) -- he is not afraid of the bettor but may fear raising because you are behind him.

Did the hand go to showdown? What did they have?
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