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09-24-2005, 11:10 AM
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This week\'s ridiculous college football polls
1. Who are the retards who voted Texas #1 over USC?
2. How is Michigan ranked higher than ND? 3. How is ND ranked higher than MSU? 4. How is Iowa State still ranked behind Iowa? Dumb, dumb, dumb. 
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#2
09-24-2005, 12:45 PM
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Re: This week\'s ridiculous college football polls
give it up dude.
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#3
09-24-2005, 03:50 PM
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Re: This week\'s ridiculous college football polls
It's just such a pathetic system.
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#4
09-24-2005, 04:13 PM
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Re: This week\'s ridiculous college football polls
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It's just such a pathetic system. [/ QUOTE ] No more pathetic than the BCS forcing the computers to use the ELO method instead of the true predictor method.
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#5
09-24-2005, 07:43 PM
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Re: This week\'s ridiculous college football polls
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[ QUOTE ] It's just such a pathetic system. [/ QUOTE ] No more pathetic than the BCS forcing the computers to use the ELO method instead of the true predictor method. [/ QUOTE ] Predictors have no place in deciding what teams play in the post-season. It should be entirely based on what has been done, not what's likely to happen. (Otherwise there's no point in playing the regular season games.) FWIW, I don't know what the ELO method is.
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#6
09-24-2005, 07:59 PM
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Re: This week\'s ridiculous college football polls
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It's just such a pathetic system. [/ QUOTE ] No more pathetic than the BCS forcing the computers to use the ELO method instead of the true predictor method. [/ QUOTE ] Predictors have no place in deciding what teams play in the post-season. It should be entirely based on what has been done, not what's likely to happen. (Otherwise there's no point in playing the regular season games.) FWIW, I don't know what the ELO method is. [/ QUOTE ] I think that Jeff Sagarin summed it up best: In ELO-CHESS, only winning and losing matters; the score margin is of no consequence, which makes it very "politically correct". However it is less accurate in its predictions for upcoming games than is the PURE POINTS, in which the score margin is the only thing that matters. PURE POINTS is also known as PREDICTOR, BALLANTINE, RHEINGOLD, WHITE OWL and is the best single PREDICTOR of future games. The ELO-CHESS will be utilized by the Bowl Championship Series(BCS). In Sagarin’s predictor formula, USC is ranked 1st. In the BCS mandated ELO system, they are ranked 7th, which is absurd.
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#7
09-24-2005, 04:15 PM
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Re: This week\'s ridiculous college football polls
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4. How is Iowa State still ranked behind Iowa? [/ QUOTE ] Not for long... Anways, I was listening to one of the ESPN Podcasts last week and they had a few media voters on the show with D.P. D.P. was arguing that the polls should reflect what has already happened and EVERY ONE of the media voters was arguing that the polls should be predictive and not results oriented. So there's your answer.
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#8
09-24-2005, 04:25 PM
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Re: This week\'s ridiculous college football polls
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EVERY ONE of the media voters was arguing that the polls should be predictive and not results oriented. So there's your answer. [/ QUOTE ] That's the most ridiculous idea ever. It's also a cop out as there are inequities such as these even in the final poll of the season. Just what are they predicting then? What would happen if everyone had a "redo"? Besides, if that's the case, why play any games at all then? The thing is, that if their predictions are right, then the polls will end up as they want anyways, so all they do is screw the lower ranked teams when their predictions turn out to be wrong.
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#9
09-24-2005, 07:47 PM
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Re: This week\'s ridiculous college football polls
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[ QUOTE ] 4. How is Iowa State still ranked behind Iowa? [/ QUOTE ] Not for long... Anways, I was listening to one of the ESPN Podcasts last week and they had a few media voters on the show with D.P. D.P. was arguing that the polls should reflect what has already happened and EVERY ONE of the media voters was arguing that the polls should be predictive and not results oriented. So there's your answer. [/ QUOTE ] It is insane to have a poll that awards any sort of a championship (the winner of the AP is considered to have won a share of the national championship) be predicitve. The rankings should be earned and not predictive. If the voters believe that there poll should be predictive, then this system may be so screwed up as to make the national championship chase not worth following at all.
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#10
09-24-2005, 08:04 PM
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Re: This week\'s ridiculous college football polls
The polls are a ranking of the tops teams from first to 25th. The games played on the field are not the ultimate determination of these rankings, but just more data that gets weighed in the process.
If team A goes 11-1, and loses to team B, who goes 1-11... should team B be ranked ahead of team A?
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