Gives trouble to me, that KQ does....

[Blarg]

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I bet out in the second hand. I think I could get raised here, and that flop scares me, giving up a free card wouldn't be good.

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It seems to me in the second hand that whether the raiser hit his hand or not, it's an auto bet for him for a number of reasons.

First, if he has a hand, he wants to get paid for it.

Second, if he doesn't, he wants to bluff that he does and scoop the pot that wayh.

Third, not betting that board is an extreme show of weakness for him, considering the board. It would make an auto-bet on the turn by BB with any two cards reasonably likely, and fairly likely to automatically take the pot.

So with or without a hand, and whether he wants to or not, the original raiser is going to find it almost impossible not to bet that flop.

[Blarg]

AK or AQ vs the KQ two pair is a 7-outer -- 3 aces and 4 jacks.

I don't think this hand is going to the turn without a bet, anyway.

[curtains]

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With many opponents (i.e. early levels of an SNG), KQ is uber-challenging to play in a raised pot. Muck most of the time the pot is raised to you, and for the sake of Pedro, don't raise the pot yourself with it.

--Z

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Yes, god forbid someone should raise with KQo first in from the cutoff seat.

[Nick B.]

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With many opponents (i.e. early levels of an SNG), KQ is uber-challenging to play in a raised pot. Muck most of the time the pot is raised to you, and for the sake of Pedro, don't raise the pot yourself with it.

--Z

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Yes, god forbid someone should raise with KQo first in from the cutoff seat.

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I might be in trouble, I have raised with it UTG before.

[Nick B.]

The first hand is an easy push/call. What could he possible play this way that beats you.

The second I would probably lead and get all in on the flop. I would hate to give a free card and he only min raised, so he might not have that good of a hand. I wouldn't expect him to autobet this flop.

[raptor517]

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Yes, god forbid someone should raise with KQo first in from the cutoff seat.

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god forbid indeed. even worse to raise from the button first in. its a sin.

ok ok ok, ill stop that. KQ is tricky. period. if the player is not experienced in poker, and cant manage to make a fold post flop, then he SHOULD NOT be playing KQ in the first 2 levels. period. the end. allah akbar. holla

[curtains]

Yes but if you don't want to learn how to play KQo here, why do you waste your time reading 2+2 and trying to improve your game. It's clearly correct to play the hand, and I assume everyone here wants to play correctly in the long run.

[Atropos]

Hand 1: You have to call. If he got a set/TPTK make a note about it, but against average party fish this is instacall.

Hand 2: Check-Raise all-in seems better than betting, if you suspect that he'll check behind an overbet seems in order, because there are many evil cards that can come.

Dont know if I like calling a minraise out of position with KQs without deep stacks, but that is more a matter of personal preference.

[CWolf]

This is pretty much ditto to most posts here, but:

Hand 1: Instant call, no thought about it.

Hand 2: I would go for a check-raise. Your hand is pretty vulnerable, but if by some odd chance he checks behind you, you can reevaluate the hand if a scary card falls i.e A or J, and it shouldn't be too hard of a fold if he makes a strong play for the pot, but if a blank comes, you can confidently bet at the pot, and very likely take it down. You may induce a bad call from a weaker hand because of the obvious stealing position you're in after he checks the flop.

[ripped]

First hand call

second hand bet it out. Too many cards that can hurt you on the turn. You want to take this pot down now or make the draws pay.