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Old 09-03-2004, 10:20 PM
bdk3clash bdk3clash is offline
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Default Monstrous two pair from the BB

UTG+1 is loose and pretty aggressive postflop (like, out of line aggressive); not so much preflop.

Comments on my flop and turn play appreciated

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: bdk3clash is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB completes, bdk3clash checks,

Flop: (6 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, bdk3clash checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, bdk3clash calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">bdk3clash bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, CO folds, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">bdk3clash 3-bets</font>...
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Old 09-03-2004, 10:32 PM
TripleH68 TripleH68 is offline
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Default Re: Monstrous two pair from the BB

If UTG+1 is on a flush draw...let's hope it is not A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]! Interesting play to wipe out the field by using a raise from UTG+1 on the turn. Then to follow through with a 3-bet. You have likely cleaned up any lingering straight draws.
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Old 09-03-2004, 11:34 PM
The13atman The13atman is offline
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Default Re: Monstrous two pair from the BB

I would check raise the flop here with flush and straight draws on board. If the original bettor 3-bets, you can slow down as you may very well be up against a made straight or a set (or possibly someone who has both an open ended straight draw and a flush fraw). Just my 2 cents.
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Old 09-04-2004, 05:37 AM
jrobb83 jrobb83 is offline
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Default Re: Monstrous two pair from the BB

What is your line on the turn if the 8 is a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?

The way you played it, it was perfect. Even if you lead the flop and the lag raised, callers would still be correct to hang around with their straight and flush draws. The turn is pretty safe, so get them out (or make them overpay) when your pot equity makes a huge jump.
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Old 09-04-2004, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: Monstrous two pair from the BB

Is this your usual line on the flop? I think it's OK to sometimes check-raise the flop in situations like this just to avoid being completely predictable but the vast majority of the time I will bet this flop.

Given your flop action, the turn action is debateable, I think. No flush draw is going to fold to two bets cold (I don't know how often UTG+1 will raise here though, a lot of players like to just call stop and goes), An oesd isn't folding either so you really are just trying to fold out any aces which don't even have odds to call one bet. Combine this with that UTG+1 doesn't raise here a lot of the time and I prefer check-raising the field. Yeah, your hand is vulnerable but I don't think you're likely to fold the draws that you want to doing it your way and the pot is small after your flop play.

Given the way the turn went, I initially liked your three bet as UTG+1 will probably raise here with just one pair a lot of the time, especially with the abundance of draws on board. I'm not sure though, given the turn card, he can really only have TT, 99 or a slowplayed big pair and everything else he raises the turn with has you crushed. And, I suppose you have to call a cap and check-call the river which I hate. Maybe just call the turn raise and bet out on the river? This seems weak though, what do you think?
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