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Old 07-23-2005, 10:34 AM
fuzzbox fuzzbox is offline
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Default AJ, top pair on a paired board

400 NL PP 6-max

Hero (400) UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villain (560) UTG+2

Hero limps, table limps - 4 to a flop.
Flop (Pot 15)
J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Checked to hero, who bets 15, villain minraises to 30, hero calls

Turn (Pot 75)
7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bets 60, villain minraises to 120, hero folds

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Old 07-23-2005, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: AJ, top pair on a paired board

Who is Villain? A limper, completer or checker? Why are you leading out on turn?
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Old 07-23-2005, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: AJ, top pair on a paired board

villain is a limper (to my immediate left).
I lead the turn because he may well have a diamond draw in this spot.
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Old 07-23-2005, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: AJ, top pair on a paired board

tricky situation alright
could villain have limped with A3?
either way,i don't think you're hand can stand two minraises,you were right to fold
not sure how you could have played this differently though
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Old 07-23-2005, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: AJ, top pair on a paired board

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Why are you leading out on turn?

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Old 07-23-2005, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: AJ, top pair on a paired board

Could this be solved by either raising or folding AJo in EP?
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Old 07-23-2005, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: AJ, top pair on a paired board

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Could this be solved by either raising or folding AJo in EP?

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Yep. It's 6-max, UTG+1. So he's 2 off the button with no limpers. He should be raising.
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Old 07-23-2005, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: AJ, top pair on a paired board

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Could this be solved by either raising or folding AJo in EP?

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I think that any hand that beats him on this board right now is a much worse starting hand that AJo, so if anything he should of raised, but raising with AJo UTG+1 is dangerous, maybe not so much at a 6-max table. UTG+2 could possibly (if he's really weak, "slowplay" a preflop monster in which case folding would be the best idea preflop. However, you don't know that, and he didn't raise.)

This hand was more costly than it should have been. I would have only lead the turn if another jack came out. I pin the guy to having a 3 or maybe if he's incredibly weak, he tried to slowplay high pockets preflop. Either way I think you're beat.
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Old 07-23-2005, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: AJ, top pair on a paired board

this is an easy raise preflop.
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: AJ, top pair on a paired board

raise preflop
pot flop
make decisions from there they should be cut and dry from here.
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