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Old 12-12-2005, 11:45 PM
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Default Andy\'s too loose

Andy's the villain...

Tournament - 7 Card Stud High - Level IV (75/150), Ante 15, Bring-In 25 (hand converter (use internet explorer))

Hero: 752
Seat 2: 1,158
Seat 3: 1,376
Seat 4: 928
Seat 5: 1,489
Seat 6: 3,028
Seat 7: 1,103
Seat 8: 2,166

3rd Street - (1.60 SB)

Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ___raises ___raises
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ___raises ___calls
Seat 3: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ___folds
Seat 5: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ___calls ___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ___brings-in ___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ___folds

4th Street - (10.93 SB)

Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ___bets
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ___calls

5th Street - (6.47 BB)

Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ___bets
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ___calls

6th Street - (8.47 BB)

Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ___bets ___calls 137 and is all-in
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ___raises

River - (12.38 BB)

Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ___all-in
Seat 2: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx

Total pot: (12.38 BB)

Results:
Total pot 1769

Hero: [Kd Ah Ad 2s Ts 6c 4h] (a pair of Aces)

Seat 2: [9s 9d 7d 8d 5c 6s 6d] (a straight, Five to Nine)
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Old 12-12-2005, 11:50 PM
beta1607 beta1607 is offline
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Default Re: Andy\'s too loose

You need to either
a.) Learn to catch cards
b.) Quit poker
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:16 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: Andy\'s too loose

Oh come on. I had a pair, after all. You don't have to have Aces in order to raise coming in, right? By the time I was able to establish that you did, in fact, have Aces, I had cleverly made the pot way too big for me to even think about folding. This was a good thing for me, because once I put chips in the pot, I never fold.

Apart from perhaps third street, at what point do you think I should have folded?
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Andy\'s too loose

I'm gonna agree with andy here, the only place to fold is 3rd if he believes you have aces, other than that i think he has to chase, he did get lucky but I don't think the 3rd street bet is to loose, there was alot of ante stealing going on.
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Andy\'s too loose

I have to object when you call Andy the villan,but I can't object when you call him too loose.Hehe.At least on 3rd st.Then he catches the beautiful 8 of diamonds & it's all over but the shouting.Give 'em hell,Andy.
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:51 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
Apart from perhaps third street, at what point do you think I should have folded?

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I must admit, after 3rd, you were correct to chase. Nice hand. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 12-13-2005, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: Andy\'s too loose

This is a standard tourney hand.

You are getting short. You have the best card up, you are looking at a bunch of duplicated cards. You have to take a stab regardless of what you actually have in the hole.

Andy probably knows this, and by the time he realizes he's behind for real he's pretty much tied himself to the pot ESPICALLY after he hits the 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (which is one of 2 remaining 8s)

This is why being big is valueable. Because you won't bust out of a tourney when 1 hand doesn't swing your way.
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Old 12-13-2005, 01:49 PM
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Anyone else notice seat 5's 3rd street play?

Nice suckout Andy.
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Old 12-13-2005, 02:11 PM
jon_1van jon_1van is offline
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Anyone else notice seat 5's 3rd street play?



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Yeah seriously...is that a bug?
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Old 12-13-2005, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Andy\'s too loose

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Anyone else notice seat 5's 3rd street play?

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Umm, that was me. I don’t recall the hand so I can’t even feign an excuse.
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