Hypothetical situation with a short stack

splashpot · #1 09-21-2005, 10:20 AM

a) You have 500 chips UTG with 72o.
b) There are 6 players left.
c) The blinds are 50/100 but will go up to 75/150 next hand.

Do you push while you still have some fold equity? Or do you let the blind essentially cripple you?

wildzer0 · #2 09-21-2005, 10:23 AM

I like to have something in the top 50% if I'm going to make this move. With 5 players left to act and a shortstack I don't do it much because (at least at the 33s) your chances of not getting called are microscopic.

kyro · #3 09-21-2005, 10:26 AM

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I like to have something in the top 50% if I'm going to make this move. With 5 players left to act and a shortstack I don't do it much because (at least at the 33s) your chances of not getting called are microscopic.

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Microscopic is a bad choice of words. I'd say you take it down without a fight about 25% of the time. Still, I fold and hope to double up in the next hand or two.

#4 09-21-2005, 11:23 AM

The blinds arent usually this high with 6 people still left are they??

If so, this would lead me to belief there are 1 or 2 very large stacks at this table, and so 500 may get a call from one of these large stacks who is anticipating you doing this with any 2.

kyro · #5 09-21-2005, 11:32 AM

I don't know where you play, but just yesterday we were 200/400 with 5 people still left. 50/100 with 6 remaining seems about right.

zambonidrivr · #6 09-21-2005, 12:04 PM

i am pushing this.

splashpot · #7 09-21-2005, 04:22 PM

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I like to have something in the top 50% if I'm going to make this move. With 5 players left to act and a shortstack I don't do it much because (at least at the 33s) your chances of not getting called are microscopic.

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Microscopic is a bad choice of words. I'd say you take it down without a fight about 25% of the time. Still, I fold and hope to double up in the next hand or two.

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Let's say your estimate of 25% is about right. Don't you think 25% plus the odds that you win the hand when called is fairly good? I like those odds better than my odds of doubling up next hand without any fold equity.

#8 09-21-2005, 05:18 PM

I'd rather wait. I don't think there's much chance of getting the others to fold. I don't really mind going down to 3X the Big Blind, you just need to get reasonably lucky once or twice and you're in fine shape.

Rduke55 · #9 09-21-2005, 05:24 PM

Nope, they're expecting a push. You don't have near the fold equity you think you do.
I'll wait for the next hand.

splashpot · #10 09-21-2005, 05:36 PM

Same question except you have:

a)67s
b)J9o
c)Q7o
d)K2o