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Old 12-18-2005, 11:21 PM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Default 15/30 QTs SB

Second hand at table. The CO is not known (he was sitting out for the few orbits that I was watching the table) but the BB is very loose.

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Preflop: I am SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>
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Old 12-18-2005, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 QTs small blind

call.
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Old 12-19-2005, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 QTs small blind

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call.

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Old 12-18-2005, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 QTs small blind

I call here since the BB is so bad. With a better player in the BB this is a fold, barring a read otherwise on CO.
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Old 12-18-2005, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 QTs SB

I was thinking about making a similar post to this... I had QJo in the SB but it's mostly the same. Anyway, I think they are both calls but maybe I am looking at the value of the hands in the wrong light.

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Old 12-18-2005, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 QTs SB

2/3 blind structure with bad player in bb easy call. 1/2 blind structure with unknowns easy fold.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 QTs SB

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2/3 blind structure with bad player in bb easy call. 1/2 blind structure with unknowns easy fold.

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listen to the worm.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:22 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 QTs SB

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2/3 blind structure with bad player in bb easy call. 1/2 blind structure with unknowns easy fold.


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listen to the worm.


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perfect.
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:19 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 QTs SB

I've just moved to the 15 and am trying to get used to the 2/3 blind structure.

What are the standard ranges for calling and raising from the sb here? Any already made thread would be perfect.

I've been typically making it 3 and getting the bb out more often than not if I'm playing from the sb.

Rasing 22+, Ax, K6s+, K8+, Q10s+, j10s. Then calling most suited one gappers below this range. Is this too loose? Obviously some adjustments can be made given the bb and the raiser, but is this range about right?
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 QTs SB

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2/3 blind structure with bad player in bb easy call. 1/2 blind structure with unknowns easy fold.

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Ok, a .17BB difference doesn't change it from being an easy call to an easy fold. Also, the quality of the BB isn't the issue, it is the blind stealing % of the CO. This is a hand that is near 0EV. Playing it increases your variance. However, against the right CO, it becomes +EV.
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