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Old 12-09-2005, 11:27 PM
wslee00 wslee00 is offline
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Default huge overbet on river - is this a bluff?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($112.45)
BB ($184.70)
UTG ($99.30)
UTG+1 ($92.50)
UTG+2 ($111)
MP1 ($99.50)
MP2 ($21.15)
MP3 ($79.40)
CO ($207.90)
Button ($77)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Button calls $1, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, BB folds, Button calls $2.

Turn: ($7) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($7) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30

This looks like a missed flush draw to me... anyone not call this?
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Old 12-10-2005, 12:21 AM
stu-unger stu-unger is offline
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Default Re: huge overbet on river - is this a bluff?

i probably fold pf, and on the river. it looks like a he missed a value bet somewhere and is trying to make up for it to me. in my experience huge overbets tend to mean huge hands...
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Old 12-10-2005, 01:01 AM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: huge overbet on river - is this a bluff?

I fold preflop. Not enough implied odds, and crappy position. You are going to lose a lot of money playing this hand postflop.

The river doesn't look like a flush draw at all to me. Players at this level usually have a very strong hand when they overbet like this unless they are a noted donkey. Why wouldn't he just risk 7 and have similar FE with much less risk? I expect to see 4x a large portion of the time.
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Old 12-10-2005, 01:16 AM
Mercman572 Mercman572 is offline
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Default Re: huge overbet on river - is this a bluff?

No reason to call this. He has to be bluffing here VERY frequently for that call to be correct.
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Old 12-10-2005, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: huge overbet on river - is this a bluff?

Yeah, I don't call. The pot is $7. Why risk $30 for that. If its a bluff, so be it. He'll do it agian, when you've got a 4 for trips. As I see it, he's got a full house here or maybe 444. Fold
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:15 PM
wslee00 wslee00 is offline
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Default Re: huge overbet on river - is this a bluff?

ok - i guess a pf fold is in order... he ended up having 5 6 to make a straight at the end
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:25 PM
Andrew Fletcher Andrew Fletcher is offline
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Default Re: huge overbet on river - is this a bluff?

Do I call $30 into a $7 pot when the only action on previous streets is a 2/3 pot-sized bet and a call? No, I'm folding every time.
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:33 PM
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Default Re: huge overbet on river - is this a bluff?

I don't call. If Villain doesn't have a 4 then God bless him.
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Old 12-11-2005, 03:22 PM
jsnipes28 jsnipes28 is offline
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Default Re: huge overbet on river - is this a bluff?

huge overbet= 2nd best hand. He had a str8 and hopes u have a naked 4
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: huge overbet on river - is this a bluff?

fold it unless u have a massive read
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