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#21
11-30-2005, 11:16 PM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
I said "push the turn" to prove a different point. To show that if you plan on calling a huge bet on the river anyway, you might as well push yourself on the turn ...(assuming villain would push the river). I agree that pushing the turn would be absurd as its a WAWB deal, but sort of thought, "hey, I hate the river line so why not do something equally bad myself...at least I'm the aggressor"
And having t500 in a stars SNG at 50-100 is only barely better than 0 with this many left. See Patrick's answer below for another reason why betting the turn can be better. 
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#22
11-30-2005, 11:58 PM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
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And having t500 in a stars SNG at 50-100 is only barely better than 0 with this many left. [/ QUOTE ] Is this another one of those "people said something bad, so I'll say something equally bad" situations?
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#23
12-01-2005, 12:47 AM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
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[ QUOTE ] And having t500 in a stars SNG at 50-100 is only barely better than 0 with this many left. [/ QUOTE ] Is this another one of those "people said something bad, so I'll say something equally bad" situations? [/ QUOTE ] everyone seems to like this line and I definitely understand the reasons and think they're valid. Just pointing out that everything isnt all roses playing it this way, and I dont think its necessarily best. Someone said in this thread "its good because you max your gains and minimize your losses". Well, why not bet the turn and fold to a raise...you can bet less than 500 (btw you might be facing a bet of more than 500 on the river here often times) and get away if raised all-in. If he has a hand like TPGK etc...the river might get you more value and you can rest a little easier about the straight. And to be honest, I prefer having the EXTRA 500 in my stack the times I'm ahead in this hand and being out completely when I lose. If its a 50/50 prop on being ahead, then Ill double up half the time and be in much better position and the other times I'll have room for a new table.
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#24
12-01-2005, 12:49 AM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
Also if villain is sneaky at all he could c/r turn with less than a 6 forcing us to make a big mistake folding.
This reasoning is nulled by the fact that he could do the same thing on the river, where, actually, its probably more effective.
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#25
12-01-2005, 01:13 AM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
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Also if villain is sneaky at all he could c/r turn with less than a 6 forcing us to make a big mistake folding. This reasoning is nulled by the fact that he could do the same thing on the river, where, actually, its probably more effective. [/ QUOTE ] No it isn't, because I check behind here 100% of the time.
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#26
12-01-2005, 01:52 AM
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Re: ($60) Two pair, meh
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[ QUOTE ] Also if villain is sneaky at all he could c/r turn with less than a 6 forcing us to make a big mistake folding. This reasoning is nulled by the fact that he could do the same thing on the river, where, actually, its probably more effective. [/ QUOTE ] No it isn't, because I check behind here 100% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] good point [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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