Pay off?

[xenthebrain]

Villain is 50/12/1.8.
Like 5 minutes ago I raised pf and he came along.
He donked the flop and turn and I raised him on the turn.
He donket the river and showed ace high.
That't about it with reads.



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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero ?

[numeri]

I don't know dude. Is this Ax (x&lt;8) without hearts often enough? That's a fairly scary board for villain to bluff at - even this nut. A flop c/r is different than a donkbet, IMO. I think we can fold.

I fold this everytime, his c/r on the flop is either pair / flush draw.

If the river wasn't a heart then I would play. Noticed he played this differently than A high. e.g. He bet trying to steal, but this time he has c/r. I would give him credit for a pair/flush draw here.

True

[jba]

hero folds. he doesn't have that many A7 or worse hands in his range.

[gehrig]

callings fine, u still beat every straight draw and air

[deception5]

I think I would call here. Gutshots/straights (QJ/QT/JT at least) are a definite possibility here and I think you'll see them (or worse) more often than 1/7 of the time, particularly given the aggressive play you've described the villian as capable of.

One interesting tidbit I got out of coaching was that it was good to use things like flush draws/straight draws picked up on the turn to randomize your ace high calldowns. Since you're on the river and there's a reasonable chance of a bluff here I think it's ok to call.