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03-06-2005, 07:17 PM
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Re: AQo preflop call, bad beat or bad call, or both
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[ QUOTE ] Wouldn't call it a bad beat at all. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't a bad beat when you get your money in with the best hand and a dominated hand out draws you? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, so if he had actually won the hand after calling off 24BB preflop with three outs then it would have been a bad beat. 
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#12
03-06-2005, 07:17 PM
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Re: AQo preflop call, bad beat or bad call, or both
Thanks for the response, I obviously have a lot to learn. I think I let the play of prior hands that session dictate my play on this hand, didn't want to get beaten by the flush again, instead he gets one of his outs anyways and I'm in my car, lol.
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#13
03-06-2005, 07:19 PM
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Re: AQo preflop call, bad beat or bad call, or both
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Wouldn't call it a bad beat at all. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't a bad beat when you get your money in with the best hand and a dominated hand out draws you? [/ QUOTE ] If that is how you define bad beat then I have them all the time too. AK was 29.6% chance to win that hand from the flop til showdown. The hand was porly played as I see it. Never ever would I call that preflop raise with AQ. And then overplay it on the flop. The only reasonable hands he will make villian fold is KK and JJ. If villian has AA or QQ or AK he will call. And villian will only be behind on one of them. Overbetting that flop like that screams flushdraw to me, and if villian thought he was up agaist a draw he did right in calling. Even if he thought that hero sometimes will have two pair and sometimes flushdraw and combine them he would do a positive EV move by calling. [/ QUOTE ] Bad beating another player does not nesceserily has to be a result of bad play, just a result of getting the money in with the worst hand. You can play correctly and still bad beat someone.
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#14
03-06-2005, 07:20 PM
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Re: AQo preflop call, bad beat or bad call, or both
29.6 is not that high.AK vs KK preflop is better than 29.6.
if overbetting like that screams flushdraw then overbetting is obviously the right move as AK will call as it did here. its just silly for villain to call this push with still fairly deep stacks on AQT board with AK but thats just me.
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#16
03-06-2005, 07:24 PM
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Re: AQo preflop call, bad beat or bad call, or both
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Where can I learn more about EV? I'm lost when it comes to that stuff, read SSHE, loved it, and it led me to this site. Thanks. [/ QUOTE ] Sklansky's Theory of Poker. IMO the best poker book written.
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#19
03-07-2005, 02:16 AM
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Re: AQo preflop call, bad beat or bad call, or both
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Where can I learn more about EV? [/ QUOTE ] http://www.pokertips.org/strategy/expected-value.php Pretty short but might clear a few things.
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