Pocket 77

Would you bet the flop?

What to do on the river UI if one person comes with me? I favour c/c, but could you justify c/f?

Cryptologic 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4.00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (2.00 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP2 folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: 3.00 BB.
Results in white below:<font color="#FFFFFF">
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[moose47]

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Would you bet the flop?

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No.


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What to do on the river UI if one person comes with me? I favour c/c, but could you justify c/f?

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I'd c/f. Do you really think your hand is best if you are called on the turn?

[DCWildcat]

I think c/c is the worst of our river options. The pot is wayyyy too small to justify calling. Bet/fold is favorable to c/c for a few reasons:
1) We're preventing them from bluffing
2) We might make a better hand fold
3) If they call, we lose. If they raise, we fold, knowing we're beat.

So we get the same information, plus the chance to buy the pot or make them fold a better hand, by b/f.

[DCWildcat]

All that doesn't mean b/f is the best option, though. With one opponent, we'd be getting 4 to 1. So we need to be good 1 in 5 times for it to be successful. That's only 20%. Any kind of weak-tight will fold that often, as will most TAGs. So a bet would be good against them. Calling stations and habitual bluff-raisers won't, so don't bet against them.

All of that only applies to 1 opponent, though. With more than 1 opponent, in this small pot, a c/f is pretty easy.

Either c/f or b/f. c/c is horrid

[DCWildcat]

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Either c/f or b/c. c/c is horrid

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I think a b/c is pretty horrid. Other than a bluff, what raises on the river that we beat? We're an underpair to the board.

wouldnt bet the flop

[NobodysFreak]

Grunch...

Reads?

I realize most of the crypto tables are rather tight, but it still helps in this situation. I think you played it fine though.

I have a question though. What were your plans if you got raised on the turn?

I was planning on c/f to more than one opponent. I'd probably b/f one LATE calling opponent, putting him on something worse than an earlier caller who had to fear others coming with him. I'd probably c/f again to an early position caller.

As you said, the Crypto tables appear very tight. No reads except table is the usual 15-18VPIP on average from what I can tell after 2 orbits. No donk plays so far.

check/fold the turn, its a small pot that you have little chance of taking down