500NL 5/5 Blinds AA hand...

[Garland]

Location: Bicycle Casino

The main villain is loose aggressive: His name is George "The Greek Poker God", for those who know him. He will make moves and push people off hands if he detects weakness.

Other factors: I've been running very, very bad. I had been losing about $700 before joining this table, and then I got stacked again on this table. In addition, I've been getting very poor cards and been playing very tight.

Two hours into the game, I finally pick up A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (~$480). I open-raise to $20 (more with more limpers), my standard open-raise even though the table standard is $30 or so. I get called by 3 opponents including George in the SB.

The flop comes 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and the pot contains $80. Everyone checks to me, and I bet $60. All fold to George who calls.

Turn comes 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and the pot now has $200. George now leads into me $150. What's my move?

Garland

I think this is a pretty tough decision, but i'd probably be willing to go broke on this hand. I'd probably call turn, and call river (i assume he would push river). You could push turn if you think he picked up a flush draw, but i wouldn't want him to stop bluffing if he has air.

George could have a Q, but he could just as easily have nothing/draw. I guess this is obvious too, but the only real decision is fold or go all-in(whether you push turn or he pushes river). i'd lean towards calling him down, even if I pay off a queen.

i'm not all that confident in this line either, so if someone has a better line, i'd love to hear it.

You don't say your position relative to the blinds, but I think I would have either limped pf looking to re-pop if I was in early position or raised bigger in middle or late position.

As the hand played out, I don't mind your flop bet, but I think you're beat. It looks like George is holding the Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and was fine calling on the flop with no draws present, but when the straight and flush draw hit on the turn he is going to make you pay to draw.

I don't know if I would be able to get away from my aces in the moment, but that might be the best thing here. You didn't show any weakness for him to be trying to take advantage of, which suggests he has a real hand (I'm thinking KQ or QJ).

If you are going to continue with the hand, you have to push right here while you have some fold equity if he doesn't have a good kicker.

GL

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If you are going to continue with the hand, you have to push right here while you have some fold equity if he doesn't have a good kicker.

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He's not folding a queen. if hero pushes, it has to be because he thinks his hand is best.

Depending on the villian, a push might fold a crappy suited Q. Thinking about it further, any hand containing a Q in this spot might not fold Q-9, Q-10 and Q-J just picked up a straight draw to go with their trips.

Like I said, I don't know if I could do it, but hero should lay down the aces. Again, if you can't lay them down, push and hope for the best.

[Percula]

I am a little jaded since I seen the hand and have seen lots of the greek's play.

He could very easily called your raise with KQ, QJ or even Qx as he was tilting from his run ins with Tuckman.

I agree with Vince that this is a push or fold situation and as bad as you were running, I am sure the thought crossed your mind that he indeed does have a Q and there is little chance of him folding it.

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Thinking about it further, any hand containing a Q in this spot might not fold Q-9, Q-10 and Q-J just picked up a straight draw to go with their trips.

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I still think this villain isn't folding a queen, but they didn't pick up a straight draw.

[lapoker17]

check the flop there dude.

btw, the action looks very weird. you "open raise" but then have position on 3 others involved in the hand?

[Percula]

Garland was UTG or UTG+1 for the hand LA

[lapoker17]

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Garland was UTG or UTG+1 for the hand LA

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ok, so then he didn't "open raise" because there had to be a limper?

not trying to be a pain in the ass, but these details are critical in hands like this one.