Good LAG Spot or Just Chip Spewing?

JFB37 · #1 10-18-2005, 12:58 PM

5/10 live at a club. Two limpers, CO makes it 35 (he's a LAG and a bully, means little), Hero calls on the button
with 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Rock in BB makes it 105, limpers fold, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Rock leads for $300, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Rock pushes, Hero calls.

Hero's original call of the CO's raise was on the theory that the CO could have anything and that the limpers would probably call to make a nice sized pot. The BB's re-raise changed everything. Hero's overcall of the BB's re-raise was on the basis that it was only 70 more into a 255 pot and it was almost certain that BB had a big pair. Clever or stupid?

How about on the flop? Nobody folds, do they? Issue, I think, is call or push. BB might get away from an overpair with a push (and say something about Hero's flopped set) but is just calling too risky as it might lead to a tough decision if, say, a A or K hits on the turn.

spoohunter · #2 10-18-2005, 01:09 PM

What do you do if you turn a 5?

fsuplayer · #3 10-18-2005, 01:39 PM

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call. wtf else would you do?

solid · #4 10-18-2005, 01:10 PM

stack sizes are essential here. seems like you'd have to be pretty deep to make calling the flop the optimal play.

ML4L · #5 10-18-2005, 02:11 PM

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Good LAG Spot?

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Hero calls

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Hero calls.

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Hero calls.

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Hero calls.

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ML4L

BobboFitos · #6 10-18-2005, 02:55 PM

lol, v good post mike

mgsimpleton · #7 10-18-2005, 04:08 PM

A+. you could not have captured my thoughts better. and so concise, no words. just A+, no two ways about it.

JFB37 · #8 10-18-2005, 04:19 PM

Effective stacks were 1500. Thanks for the reality check. It was pretty donkish. Sometimes happens to me at a live table with straddle this and 7/2 bounty that.

Just the slap I needed.

ML4L · #9 10-18-2005, 04:46 PM

Hey JFB,

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Effective stacks were 1500. Thanks for the reality check. It was pretty donkish. Sometimes happens to me at a live table with straddle this and 7/2 bounty that.

Just the slap I needed.

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Preflop was fine, as long as you intend to use your position well and really pound favorable flops. This is one of those flops. You say that you think he'll fold an overpair. If that's the case, that's what I would try to make him do. If he calls, you have a ton of outs.

As played, easy call on the turn.

Hope it worked out.

ML4L

Big_Jim · #10 10-18-2005, 04:54 PM

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If it's fine.. I think it's only VERY marginally so...

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Isn't this an argument AGAINST the pre-flop play?

Unless this guy is pretty weak tight, or he thinks we are, I find it hard to believe that we can push him off his hand often enough, while at the same time getting paid off when we flop good, to make this worthwhile.

It's probably close though, considering all the money already in the pot, and at least he has the button.