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Old 11-13-2005, 08:55 PM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
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Jake Plummer is the NFL MVP right now.
Discuss MVP or other awards here right now I have.
MVP No Mistake Jake
Offensive POY LaDanian Tomlinson
Defensive MVP Dwight Freeney
Offensive ROY Heath Miller
Defensive ROY Odell Thurman
Coach of the Year Jon Gruden
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Old 11-13-2005, 09:09 PM
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Walter Jones.
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Old 11-14-2005, 04:14 AM
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MVP--Steve Smith
Best offensive player Tomlinson

Tomlinson is the best player in the league though so I see no problem in him winning the MVP. (and he can throw like a QB [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:15 PM
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Plummer? How is he the MVP?? He's playing solid, don't get me wrong, but MVP? For 13 TD passes in nine games and a middle of the pack rating?

Walter Jones, I really like that as an outside the box pick.

Steve Smith would be my MVP. The guy is the only weapon on that offense and the Panthers are scoring points and winning games. They sure aren't getting anything from the other receivers or the running game.

MVP is almost always a QB though, which I strongly disagree with.
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:47 PM
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Plummer? How is he the MVP?? He's playing solid, don't get me wrong, but MVP? For 13 TD passes in nine games and a middle of the pack rating?

Walter Jones, I really like that as an outside the box pick.

Steve Smith would be my MVP. The guy is the only weapon on that offense and the Panthers are scoring points and winning games. They sure aren't getting anything from the other receivers or the running game.

MVP is almost always a QB though, which I strongly disagree with.

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From a pure production standpoint, the QB is always the most valuable of the skill positions.
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:08 PM
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Plummer? How is he the MVP?? He's playing solid, don't get me wrong, but MVP? For 13 TD passes in nine games and a middle of the pack rating?

Walter Jones, I really like that as an outside the box pick.

Steve Smith would be my MVP. The guy is the only weapon on that offense and the Panthers are scoring points and winning games. They sure aren't getting anything from the other receivers or the running game.

MVP is almost always a QB though, which I strongly disagree with.

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As for Walter Jones an O-Line Man will never win MVP
Since a QB almost always wins the award I think Plummer is a good pick. The only QB who is playing better for a premier team is Carson Palmer.

Out of the QB's rated higher than Plummer
McNabb, Brady, and Bledsoe - Team not good enough
Delhomme, Brees, and Peyton - Might not even by their own teams MVP
Roethlisberger- Too many injuries

That leaves Plummer in IMO as one of the top 2 QB's in the MVP race, and I think Plummer is slightly better candidate than Carson because Dewnver will end with more wins than the Bengals.
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:12 PM
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Way to come to your conclusion before looking at facts.
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Old 11-14-2005, 12:43 AM
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Way to come to your conclusion before looking at facts.

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What was said in my second post was known to me when I made my first post. My second post just further expanded my thought process to you.
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:18 PM
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Brady's just been carrying his team. His defense is sucking, he doesn't have a run game, and the guy is still winning football games on top a division, despite how bad it is. With a normal QB, the Pats would have folded by now.
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:19 PM
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Whatever. He's a system quarterback.
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