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Old 03-01-2005, 12:15 AM
ThrillFactor ThrillFactor is offline
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I have T1300. Blinds are 50/100.

I was at t575 about 6 hands ago. Picked up ATo in CO. Pushed , got called and doubled. Two hands later I blind-steal. I now have pocket 7s in the BB. Table short-stack (T800) limps from MP (this smelled of a speculative hand, not a trap), SB completes (pot odds).

If I make a standard raise and get called, there's not too many flops that I want to see. I push "knowing" that SB is going to fold and if limper calls, he can only cripple me, not eliminate me.

Standard?
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Old 03-01-2005, 12:17 AM
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I'm not a tournament expert by any means, but I don't see any problems with this.

If it were a cash game and the short stack is at say 5BBs, I'd probably push with sevens to get him heads-up.
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Old 03-01-2005, 12:18 AM
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I raise.

Assuming SB folds and limper calls. Flop comes rags you push. Flop bring a 7 your money. I think your running a race no matter what, and for only 2 blinds? Seems very low EV to me.
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Old 03-01-2005, 12:23 AM
ThrillFactor ThrillFactor is offline
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Default Re: Hand from Party Super for checkup...

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I raise.

Assuming SB folds and limper calls. Flop comes rags you push. Flop bring a 7 your money. I think your running a race no matter what, and for only 2 blinds? Seems very low EV to me.

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That would have to be one heck of a ragged flop to still feel comfortable. Remember, SB is in there. He could have literally any two cards. There were 3BBs out there also (mine too) - 25% of my stack.
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Old 03-01-2005, 12:28 AM
ZBTHorton ZBTHorton is offline
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Default Re: Hand from Party Super for checkup...

Flop comes 10 - 6 - 3r

You don't feel comfortable pushing? Just wondering, not critiqueing.
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Old 03-01-2005, 12:32 AM
ThrillFactor ThrillFactor is offline
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I understand, but I think the flop comes far more often with at least one face or two overs. No?

I'd much rather put JT to a decision now as opposed to on the flop.
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Old 03-01-2005, 12:36 AM
ZBTHorton ZBTHorton is offline
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Default Re: Hand from Party Super for checkup...

A face card is definitely going to come on the flop the majority of the time, and I see your point.

I am just not the type of player who likes to take a risk like this early in a tournament. I would actually push as the third option.

I would raise first.
Check and see a flop second
Push third.
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Old 03-01-2005, 12:49 AM
ThrillFactor ThrillFactor is offline
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Probably should have made that part a little clearer also. This wasn't exactly early... we were half way thru the second hour and average was about T2200 IIRC. I had some catching up to do.

This kinda goes back the the Accumulator v. Conserver debate from the other day. In the past my options would have been:

1) Check and see the flop
2) Raise
a distant 3) push


Now that I lean more towards the Accum. side of things the thinking goes 1) I need chips, 2) this is as good a spot as any to get my chips in on the better half of a flip, and 3) I've got tons of FE here, and I probably won't even be called = 300 free chips.


Still too aggressive?
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Old 03-01-2005, 01:17 AM
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I would definetely push. Let's get some chips.
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Old 03-01-2005, 04:43 AM
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Push for sure.
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