PP10. 46s RIVER BLUFF

[Jeff W]

I would check turn. Whatever he called on the flop, he'll probably call again on the turn if not the river and you don't want to get checkraised off your draw.

[dave44]

For your river bluff to be OK, this guy would have to be fairly aggressive and if he's that aggressive I'd think you're getting check-raised on this turn often enough to make checking better.

[flawless_victory]

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I would check turn. Whatever he called on the flop, he'll probably call again on the turn if not the river and you don't want to get checkraised off your draw.

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i tota;;y agrre w/ that, but i admit i was paying v little attention and was really tired when this hand was played.

[flawless_victory]

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Imo this is a complete spew unless you had a way better read than just "fish". It´s very unlikely he is raising the river without a full house and as he is a fish he will never fold a 7.

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why would he have a 7?

[stigmata]

I disagree with the turn check. The read given was somewhat lacking, but against a vanilla fish:

1) He showed no aggression on the flop. The turn changes nothing -- it is unlikely he is paired.

2) He's a fish. There's a good chance he is just peeling. Our fold equity rockets on the turn.

3) We have no showdown equity and can't call a river bluff, getting a fold from him would be much better now. A turn check with a gutshot + high card would be much nicer.

4) We have a gutshot and it's an easy fold against most players.

Against 95% of players our fold equity >>> equity of our draw. Unless you missed out some vital information in your read.

[NLfool]

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the whole hand is one extended spew IMO.

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fish and playing 64 in limit don't mix. Believe me I've tried but they'll take their 66 to showdown on a KQTxx board to me position and iniative against fish don't really matter so I fold this one preflop