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Old 12-15-2005, 10:45 PM
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Default 3 handed am I too tight folding J7o on the button

never play 3 handed but recently are starting to
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: 3 handed am I too tight folding J7o on the button

I haven't given hands like this enough thought but it looks like it is time to raise it up!



12,676,732,992 games 34.187 secs 370,805,656 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 37.7166 % 36.36% 01.36% { J7o }
Hand 2: 26.9092 % 26.06% 00.86% { random }
Hand 3: 35.3742 % 33.47% 01.91% { random }


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Old 12-15-2005, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: 3 handed am I too tight folding J7o on the button

I usually fold it but it's really dependent upon how the game has been playing recently (how much I've been stealing, how they've been responding to raises, etc).

Rob
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Old 12-16-2005, 11:56 PM
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Default BUMP

Can we get some other opinions on this one? Maybe knowing your opponents is really the answer here.
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: 3 handed am I too tight folding J7o on the button

surfdoc,

You need to use the Monte Carlo option instead of the enumerate all option:

equity (%)
32% { J7o }
34% { random }
34% { random }
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: 3 handed am I too tight folding J7o on the button

what is the difference?
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: 3 handed am I too tight folding J7o on the button

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what is the difference?

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Enumerate all does just what it says. It enumerates every single board for every hand in the specified ranges and calculates how often each range wins or ties. When you have 2 random hands and 5 cards to come, it is a coin flip whether or not pigs will learn to fly before your simulation finishes.

Monte Carlo uses a "shortcut" to come up with the same numbers and it's very accurate and much faster.

Monte Carlo Simulations
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: 3 handed am I too tight folding J7o on the button

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what is the difference?

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Enumerate all does just what it says. It enumerates every single board for every hand in the specified ranges and calculates how often each range wins or ties. When you have 2 random hands and 5 cards to come, it is a coin flip whether or not pigs will learn to fly before your simulation finishes.

Monte Carlo uses a "shortcut" to come up with the same numbers and it's very accurate and much faster.

Monte Carlo Simulations

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That link made my head explode.

The numbers you generated and quoted sure look different then the ones I quoted.
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: 3 handed am I too tight folding J7o on the button

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what is the difference?

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Enumerate all does just what it says. It enumerates every single board for every hand in the specified ranges and calculates how often each range wins or ties. When you have 2 random hands and 5 cards to come, it is a coin flip whether or not pigs will learn to fly before your simulation finishes.

Monte Carlo uses a "shortcut" to come up with the same numbers and it's very accurate and much faster.

Monte Carlo Simulations

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That link made my head explode.

The numbers you generated and quoted sure look different then the ones I quoted.

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If you notice the #'s in the one you quoted show that one random hand has a big edge over the other one.
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: 3 handed am I too tight folding J7o on the button

I think itīs close enough that it depends on the blinds.
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