big blind, baby trips, bloated pot (party 5/10)

Spook · #1 12-09-2005, 05:08 AM

UTG is 40/25/1.13 over 40 hands
Button is 57/25/2.13 over 100+ hands

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG caps, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (15.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button raises

imported_leader · #2 12-09-2005, 05:14 AM

Wow that's tough. I'd probably fold the river.

#3 12-09-2005, 05:16 AM

That would be tough to lay down, but in this situation given that a Jack is usually played by loose players (or any player with another good card), it might be best to fold. The pot is huge too so in theory, a call may be your best play since you will get a huge payoff if your fours hold up.

Again, I'm new at this kind of stuff so don't rip me up if i'm wrong.

Spook · #4 12-09-2005, 05:20 AM

Cap the turn, no reason to think you are behind to JJ and you have outs against 22.
It also makes the river an easy fold. Or possibly just one to call.

imported_leader · #5 12-09-2005, 05:27 AM

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Cap the turn, no reason to think you are behind to JJ and you have outs against 22.
It also makes the river an easy fold. Or possibly just one to call.

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If we don't cap, we get to see if UTG will. Does this effect anything for you?

Spook · #6 12-09-2005, 05:34 AM

I only see him capping hands with trips or better. 45s is definately something he would limp. As is A4s. But I see him raising the field here with a pocket pair 55-88, or Ahxh, and not capping. Button could have anything.
I think I loss value by not capping.

imported_leader · #7 12-09-2005, 05:57 AM

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I only see him capping hands with trips or better. 45s is definately something he would limp. As is A4s. But I see him raising the field here with a pocket pair 55-88, or Ahxh, and not capping. Button could have anything.
I think I loss value by not capping.

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Could be. Just figured I throw that out there.

raze · #8 12-09-2005, 12:06 PM

What can you beat? With PFR% = 25, no one slowplayed a big pocket pair

jba · #9 12-09-2005, 12:23 PM

yeah, fold the river.

I don't cap the turn, I figure I'm drawing to three outs most of the time there.

gonzopro · #10 12-09-2005, 12:28 PM

Clear river fold (but it hurts).