Runner Runner Flush

Mercman572 · #1 11-29-2005, 03:30 PM

Table is very loose. PFR'er has been stacked and has been raising most pots preflop since. He's been multiway just about every time he's done this. So I expect to have this multiway in position with my call preflop. The river raisor is a calling station (45/6/.85/30). The blind will bet any piece of the board here.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($97.85)
UTG ($185.40)
MP ($136.70)
Hero ($162.65)
SB ($268.56)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, MP raises to $4, Hero calls $4, SB (poster) calls $3.50, BB calls $3, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($20) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

River: ($20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets $8, BB folds, UTG raises to $25, MP folds, Hero?

Blind has called me down twice with mid pair when I fired 3 times, so I could be making a $25 call in a potentially $75 pot. However, UTF's aggr. has me worried. There aren't many other smaller flushes possible given the last 3 cards, could this be a str8, 2 pair, or lower flush enough times to make this call?

PokerFink · #2 11-29-2005, 04:02 PM

I originally wrote in that you should call this, but as I'm looking at the board, there isn't really much you beat. What two pair is UTG going to have? Is he limping 68 UTG? Is he raising with that on the river?

This looks like a fold, but with SB potentially overcalling it makes it tough to muck. I think it's pretty marginal either way.

Mercman572 · #3 11-29-2005, 04:10 PM

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What two pair is UTG going to have? Is he limping 68 UTG? Is he raising with that on the river?

This looks like a fold, but with SB potentially overcalling it makes it tough to muck. I think it's pretty marginal either way.

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He'll limp with much worse than 68. Only reason his vpip is as "Low" as it is is because the two players before h im had PFR's of 60 and 20. Still I don't think he'd reraise this, a straight might.

beavens · #4 11-29-2005, 04:18 PM

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What two pair is UTG going to have? Is he limping 68 UTG? Is he raising with that on the river?

This looks like a fold, but with SB potentially overcalling it makes it tough to muck. I think it's pretty marginal either way.

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He'll limp with much worse than 68. Only reason his vpip is as "Low" as it is is because the two players before h im had PFR's of 60 and 20. Still I don't think he'd reraise this, a straight might.

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im thinking he caught a 2pr or straight.. i've got a good feeling that our flush is good.

but oh man how i've been wrong about these types of hands!

Mercman572 · #5 11-29-2005, 06:09 PM

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im thinking he caught a 2pr or straight.. i've got a good feeling that our flush is good.

but oh man how i've been wrong about these types of hands!

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as you are here [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. I am also not sure if I should be calling since the action has been reopened for SB to push me off after I call.

beavens · #6 11-29-2005, 06:10 PM

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im thinking he caught a 2pr or straight.. i've got a good feeling that our flush is good.

but oh man how i've been wrong about these types of hands!

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as you are here [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. I am also not sure if I should be calling since the action has been reopened for SB to push me off after I call.

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id probably call and punch the door when i was outflushed.

#7 11-29-2005, 06:12 PM

Donks will occasionally slowplay sets like this. I would be a bit concerned, but I don't think calling is so bad here.

Mercman572 · #8 11-29-2005, 06:12 PM

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id probably call and punch the door when i was outflushed.

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I'd be more inclined to punch the wall if small blind pushed

beavens · #9 11-29-2005, 06:13 PM

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id probably call and punch the door when i was outflushed.

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I'd be more inclined to punch the wall if small blind pushed

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yeah.. then you'd have to lay it down.. i really hope you didnt call and the SB pushed

Mercman572 · #10 11-29-2005, 06:20 PM

Nah, since no one else is interested in this hand, SB folded (he usually led for more money with a good hand anyway) and the calling station shows 47 spades for the straight flush. I have got to learn what kind of strength a player like that needs to raise.