limp-reraised in BB

Spook · #1 11-08-2005, 09:08 PM

UTG is 60/5/.8 over 35 or so hands. Likes to call more than bet.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG 3-bets, MP calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (15 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (12 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button raises
Final Pot: 17 BB

I don't think UTG will raise me, UTG+1 is more likely to raise UTG on the flop. Otherwise, I can't find a good time to get my money in.

Spicymoose · #2 11-08-2005, 09:18 PM

Limp reraises from early position fairly often mean AA, KK, or AK. Since it is extremely unlikely he has KK (one combo), you are likely way ahead of his hand, but he will think he likes his hand. So lead into him, and let him raise you. Sometimes he will have worse hands, but still raise. Sometimes someone else will like their hand and raise you. Then 3-bet the flop. Given that you checked, raise.

Given that you just called, the ace is a pretty bad card, as it gives him the edge in a lot of his likely preflop holdings. This doesn't necessarily mean you are beat, but just call the turn. I think you can fold the river.

RiverTheNuts · #3 11-08-2005, 09:34 PM

I juice the crap out of the flop, bet the turn and call down from there, calling 1 on the river.

How you played it I think this is an easy fold

Button either has 88, KQ, A8, A2, or a donkish JT, possibly even AQ, you are ahead here approximately 0% of the time

Catt · #4 11-09-2005, 12:29 AM

I think you should fold pre-flop the first time it comes to you. And I think you need to C/R this flop.

New001 · #5 11-09-2005, 12:38 AM

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I think you should fold pre-flop the first time it comes to you. And I think you need to C/R this flop.

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I agree entirely.

scotty34 · #6 11-09-2005, 12:44 AM

Fold this preflop. I think I would donk the flop and hope he raises you. Given that you didn't do that, you have to atleast C/R and jam it.

#7 11-09-2005, 01:54 AM

Fold this preflop, where are you going?

c/r the flop.

bugstud · #8 11-09-2005, 01:58 AM

all this fold PF crap when he's getting 9-1 is a little overboard, and I think a turn c/r is nails. I fold the river because he's down to jj/tt/random crap you beat and the other guy probably has you as well.

New001 · #9 11-09-2005, 02:11 AM

9-1 with an bad offsuit hand that's easily dominated against a PFR, and it's against a large field. Your relative position to the PFR is also very poor if you do hit the flop and want to continue. I don't even feel bad about playing this, and I play tons of awful (mostly suited) hands from the BB.

I could be wrong...

bugstud · #10 11-09-2005, 02:56 AM

I'd like to hear your calling range here, as a curiousity.