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Old 10-28-2005, 04:26 AM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Empire 30/60 LAGs Scare Me - a hand

Villain here is 25/14/2 over a good sample size for 7-10 handed play. She was capping preflop frequently when 3 bet - earlier I saw her cap preflop HU OOP with ATs.

Basically I didn't know where to give action and when would be too much. So I played the flop hard, then went weak on the turn, then realized I played the turn weak so decided to try to fix that on the river. I would have puked and called a river 3 bet fwiw.

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Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (10 handed) wacki's version of bison

Preflop: Hero is Button with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>...
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Old 10-28-2005, 05:02 AM
DeeJ DeeJ is offline
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Default Re: Empire 30/60 LAGs Scare Me - a hand

yeah you beat AJ/AT but not much else; you lose to AK/AA/99/88/77 and A9/A8/A7 if she played those. Maybe 5-10% bluff? I'd be weaky tighty calling down after I was bet into at the turn.
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Old 10-28-2005, 08:43 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: Empire 30/60 LAGs Scare Me - a hand

the flop/turn line is an indication of a hand that doesn't want to give a free card to a flush draw and waiting till the turn improves his equity and/or spiked dos pair.

i am *usually* just calling this river and i am *usually* not calling a 3-bet if i did raise.
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:06 PM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Default Re: Empire 30/60 LAGs Scare Me - a hand

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I would have puked and called a river 3 bet fwiw.

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I doubt that this can be right.
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:09 PM
KaneKungFu123 KaneKungFu123 is offline
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Default Re: Empire 30/60 LAGs Scare Me - a hand

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I would have puked and called a river 3 bet fwiw.

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I doubt that this can be right.

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i thought the same thing.
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Empire 30/60 LAGs Scare Me - a hand

I just call the river.
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Old 10-28-2005, 02:33 PM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Re: Empire 30/60 LAGs Scare Me - a hand

What do you make of his flop checkraise? It's sort of weird isn't it? If he has an ace he had the lead preflop, why not continue? To me it suggested weakness as there are alot of ways to play a flopped monster but I can't imagine this is one of the better ones..

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Old 10-28-2005, 05:40 PM
Eric P Eric P is offline
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Default Re: Empire 30/60 LAGs Scare Me - a hand

i wouldn't be SHOCKED if you won the hand. but i don't really like it. I wouldn't raise this river at all, personally i think he has A9 suited. But equally possible is he has AT and bet cause he picked up a striaght draw, when you don't raise him he thinks you don't have an ace. BTW you played the hand pretty well if he does have AT, but i think that you lose here most the time
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