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Old 10-25-2005, 07:38 PM
Trix Trix is offline
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Default QT, turn bluffraise, retarded ?

CO(40/30) opens, Button calls, I call in SB with QTo, BB calls.

Flop Kh9c6c, I have Tc, checked to pfr who bets, Button calls, I call, BB calls.

Turn 5s, checked to the button(41/10/0.6, over 100 hands) who Bets, I raise...
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: QT, turn bluffraise, retarded ?

First reaction: Looks a little too fancy. Obviously everything's fine until then, but at that point it's over.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: QT, turn bluffraise, retarded ?

Id be folding this preflop. On the turn I dont think this works often enough especially since the BB is yet to act.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: QT, turn bluffraise, retarded ?

Is that a standard call PF? I don't think so. I'm not a big fan of the turn. Button is a loose passive player and CO doesn't look like the kind of player that never calls two cold on the turn. BB is still there too. The pot is 7 BB and you investing two to win it. You have to be right a lot here. I don't think you are.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: QT, turn bluffraise, retarded ?

What do you think BB has that will make this less good ?
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: QT, turn bluffraise, retarded ?

mainly a flush draw. If he calls to on the turn are you giving up?
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: QT, turn bluffraise, retarded ?

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What do you think BB has that will make this less good ?

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What you're trying to represent. It won't happen often, but it's a possibility.

Edit: flush draw too
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: QT, turn bluffraise, retarded ?

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Is that a standard call PF? I don't think so. I'm not a big fan of the turn. Button is a loose passive player and CO doesn't look like the kind of player that never calls two cold on the turn. BB is still there too. The pot is 7 BB and you investing two to win it. You have to be right a lot here. I don't think you are.

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We have to win it about 22% - 8.7% = 13.5% if we assume we have zero implied odds those times that we miss the river and also assume that we don't continue our bluff on the river.

Trix,
Do you think you are going to win this pot right now 13.5% of the time?
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: QT, turn bluffraise, retarded ?

I´m betting the river.
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Old 10-25-2005, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: QT, turn bluffraise, retarded ?

Why would you give up if you think he has a flushdraw and it doesn´t hit ?
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