Terrible Wynn dealer

[Spook]

I was playing at the Wynn tonight and after a few good dealers and a so so dealer, and a lot of bad cards, our table gets a terrible dealer.
I am in the SB, and get dealt an ace, and the next card is flipped up a Kc. So I object saying it is a misdeal, and the dealer says "no it isn't" and deals out the rest of the cards.
Two players fold, and a third calls the BB, when the dealer decides it is a misdeal and starts taking cards.
I say "Wait, I thought this wasn't a misdeal" and said that enough people had acted to create significant action. (I then looked it up online and I was correct, the hand should have been played out)

Nope - I called for him to stop, but he kept collecting cards and it was too late to get the floor over.
I got them over - but they didn't seem to care.

So I guess there was nothing I could have done. Or was there?

On a side note, Two hands later, he pushes a pot to the wrong person, and the next hand a older drunker man FLIPS out that the dealer won't tell him what the raise is to, this is in 4-8 limit, and the guy had been playing for hours. Security has to come over and escort him out.

[Dynasty]

Two wrongs make a right.

Must have been a cousin of Steve Wynn or something. That's the only way I can see a horrible dealer getting a job there.

[budman]

I am suprised! I played there many hours on my last trip and saw some excellent dealers. It did not seem that they were training any of them.

The floor people were pretty laid back though (but very friendly).

[Al_Capone_Junior]

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Two wrongs make a right.

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So do three lefts. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

al

[MicroBob]

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man FLIPS out that the dealer won't tell him what the raise is to, this is in 4-8 limit, and the guy had been playing for hours. Security has to come over and escort him out.

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that's kind of weird too. what the hell is that all about?

even though it was limit I would think it shouldn't be too tough for the dealer to say "it's another $8 to call sir."


I played at Bellagio with the 2 drunkest and stupidest Australians ever who simply didn't know how to play and ALWAYS had zero clue how much they were supposed to put in (in a 4/8 limit game) but the dealers where there to help them out.


I would also be kind of concerned that the floor didn't seem to care about your situation...but i agree that a correct, but late, ruling was probably for the best here.

[bigfishead]

First, it ISNT a misdeal because a card flipped over UNLESS it's one of the 2 first cards off the deck. In any game, stud or holdem. These things happen.

Now as for the dealer later calling it a misdeal. Did you possibly miss something? Like a 2nd card getting flipped over? Then it is a misdeal and the dealer would be correct in calling it such. Supposing of course he also called "time" or said something before there were 2 actions in the hand or a player said something prior to 2 actions. This generally stops all future actions no matter what. It doesnt matter if the players pay attn or not and go on acting if a dealer or player calls time. Any subsequent action after such is said is meaningless. I mention this "just in case" the dealer wasnt out of line.

Also once the "too late to get the floor over" happens, whether they APPEAR to care or not is of no concern. It's too late and it's over...get on to the next hand.

As for the drunk....maybe this dealer had enough of him. Who the hell knows. Not that I agree with not telling him the amount. But sometimes, its a known problem child and the dealer was just done dealing with him. Sometimes whats better for the game in the long haul is in conflict with your short term expectation.

Just a few random thoughts to consider. And I'm not suggesting your wrong. But this thread does not make for a terrible dealer. Just a couple unusual but not so unusual things within a very short timeframe. Shlt happens.

[Spook]

First off, I complained when the second card off of the deck flipped over. I said it was a misdeal, and the dealer disagreed. He then dealt out the rest of the cards and a replacement for the big blind. He dealt out another 13 or 15 cards after I complained.
Then two players folded, a third called, and the drunk was wondering what the bet was. I looked down and saw two aces.

THEN he said it was a misdeal and started picking up everyones cards. After significant action had occured.

[MicroBob]

it strikes me as possible that he saw that somebody had 3 cards or only 1 card or two players cards got mixed up (or whatever)
He just looked over and saw this situation and THEN ruled a mid-deal.

It seems strange that he would LATER decide it was a mis-deal after the hand had already started without any other problem having occured.


What did he say when the floor came over?
Did he say that it was ONLY because of the 1st card being exposed?
Something doesn't seem right here.

[steamboatin]

I didn't care for the floor at the Wynn.

I made a post about it but the consensus came back that I was from Indiana and wouldn't know a good floor decision if I saw it.