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#12
09-24-2005, 09:35 PM
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Re: Fundamental Theorem / Hand reading from 2+2 Table
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The river call makes me think AA [/ QUOTE ] Really? Cuz that makes me think he had a flush draw and a pair somewhere and it didnt come in, doesn't really fit though. Trips for you makes some sense on the early streets, but River doesn't make much sense, meh. I'll go with 22, KJ, AA or QQ, those seem solid possibilities. For the record I don't like BB's lack of a Pre-flop 3-bet or his call of your 3-bet on the Flop. For shame. 
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#13
09-24-2005, 10:16 PM
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Re: Fundamental Theorem / Hand reading from 2+2 Table
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For the record I don't like BB's lack of a Pre-flop 3-bet or his call of your 3-bet on the Flop. For shame. [/ QUOTE ] If I'm capable of a continuation bet / bluff 3-bet on the flop, are you capping?
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#14
09-24-2005, 10:32 PM
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Re: Fundamental Theorem / Hand reading from 2+2 Table
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[ QUOTE ] For the record I don't like BB's lack of a Pre-flop 3-bet or his call of your 3-bet on the Flop. For shame. [/ QUOTE ] If I'm capable of a continuation bet / bluff 3-bet on the flop, are you capping? [/ QUOTE ] Well, it all ties in with Pre-flop. I three bet a 2+2er here most of the time. That flop is pretty bad for me, If I am behind I am drawing to 2 outs, putting any extra money in when we are this behind is really costly. It's apparent that to get this hand to Showdown I'm going to have to call 2 more BBs, and to win if I'm ahead I have to dodge a million Overcards. I'll fold to your 3-bet.
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#15
09-25-2005, 04:25 AM
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Re: Fundamental Theorem / Hand reading from 2+2 Table
HERO SHOULD HAVE:
FLOP: Fold to the three bet. TURN: Good RIVER: Three-bet ===== I think you had one or two pair. I'll guess you had KJ or K2.
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#19
09-25-2005, 12:05 PM
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Re: Fundamental Theorem / Hand reading from 2+2 Table
Ducks = 22.
You fear exactly one hand here, and that hand is 55, and you shouldn't have to fear it very much. If villain played like that with 44, well, he needs a talking to. If villain didn't 3bet JJ or KK, he's got a terrible case of FPS and still needs a talking to, so they can be almost totally discounted. Villain was pretty stupid to be check/raising a flop of that texture with 3rd pair, especially to then call the 3bet, unless you'd literally be stealing, betting and 3betting while still holding any two cards. 55 is probably about as remote a possibility as KK and JJ assuming a rational villain. The most logical hands for villain are KJ, K2, J2, K5, and J5, and even those were donked pretty badly. A trifecta is virtually never the way to extract the maximum. You're beating his most likely holdings badly, and the chances of things that beat you are terribly small. I think I'd put in one last raise on the river and congratulate villain on his trifecta and brutal suckout.
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#20
09-25-2005, 12:33 PM
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Re: Fundamental Theorem / Hand reading from 2+2 Table
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I think the table sees me as a little too LAG PF, and way too LAG post-flop (checkraise bluff caps and such). I have shown down my fair share of winners, but most of those have been played very passively. [/ QUOTE ] And then you go and open-raise 22? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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