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#21
08-20-2005, 02:56 PM
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Re: Harrahs treated me like I\'m a potential terrorist tonight
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[ QUOTE ] "This is their right as a private business" -- no, I'm pretty sure gaming is a public accomodation and falls under civil right law. I'm not a lawyer, etc. [/ QUOTE ] no, you're wrong. just because you add an IANAL disclaimer at the end doesnt excuse ignorance. they are a private business and are within their rights to refuse service or bar anyone of their choosing for whatever reason (ie: the same rules that allow casinos to bar card counters) [/ QUOTE ] First of all, not all casinos can legally bar card counters. Apparently New Jersey casinos are prohibited by law from such bars (Uston v. Resorts International Hotel, Inc, 1982). Secondly, "they are a private business" has nothing to do with it. The vehemence of your accusation of ignorance led me to look up some facts. The Civil Rights Act of 1964, according to Wikipedia, [ QUOTE ] Outlawed discrimination in hotels, motels, restaurants, theaters, and all other public accommodations engaged in interstate commerce; exempted private clubs without defining "private," thereby allowing a loophole. [/ QUOTE ] Since most of the Nevada casinos are large corporations engaged in interstate commerce, I don't see how they can excuse themselves from this law. Perhaps the casino part of the establishment is considered differently from the hotel part; if you're familiar with the case law in this regard, then you passed up a really good opportunity to cite it. 
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#22
08-20-2005, 05:38 PM
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Re: Harrahs treated me like I\'m a potential terrorist tonight
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Everone who responed to the OP are uneducated morans and have probably never left the town they were born in. If what the OP said is true I would raise hell with Harrahs, the enmey wins if a olive complextion person cant walk into a casino. Thats what they want is a divided America. [/ QUOTE ] U need to chill bro. Lets not let a private business with the right to refuse anyone service, exercise this right, because that divide america. ONCE AGAIN ITS THERE RIGHT!!! There are some hilarious post here. great responses. BTW doesnt sound like they think ur a terrorist, ethier you look like someone thats on the 86d list, you are someone on the 86d list, or someone was jealous of the 2 hot bitches you were with and decided to playa hate on you. aif it was the playa hater thing, i nominate this person for hater of the yeaar. ( man i want chappelle show back)
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#23
08-20-2005, 05:42 PM
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Re: Harrahs treated me like I\'m a potential terrorist tonight
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That's pretty outrageous. Let us know what comes of it. I certainly don't intend to patronize Harrah's if they treat patrons like this, but I'd imagine Corporate will be apologetic and probably give you lifetime comps to try to keep you from making a stink about it. "This is their right as a private business" -- no, I'm pretty sure gaming is a public accomodation and falls under civil right law. I'm not a lawyer, etc. [/ QUOTE ] No gambling is not a pubulic accomodation, however a hotel is, and so are resturants, so its pretty confusing. Even if it was they can refuse him for other reasons. Once again we are all assumeing they tould him to leave caause hes a middle eastern looking, i highly doubt this is a standard that harrahs has, just one cause of mistaken idenity with a 86d player
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#24
08-20-2005, 05:47 PM
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Re: Harrahs treated me like I\'m a potential terrorist tonight
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] "This is their right as a private business" -- no, I'm pretty sure gaming is a public accomodation and falls under civil right law. I'm not a lawyer, etc. [/ QUOTE ] no, you're wrong. just because you add an IANAL disclaimer at the end doesnt excuse ignorance. they are a private business and are within their rights to refuse service or bar anyone of their choosing for whatever reason (ie: the same rules that allow casinos to bar card counters) [/ QUOTE ] First of all, not all casinos can legally bar card counters. Apparently New Jersey casinos are prohibited by law from such bars (Uston v. Resorts International Hotel, Inc, 1982). [/ QUOTE ] Wrong this stated that card counters couldnt be barred for cheating, but they can be barred for counting. Second parts almost right but gameing isnt a public ammodation, its just like aguasta (they dont let wenches in).
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#26
08-20-2005, 05:56 PM
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Re: Harrahs treated me like I\'m a potential terrorist tonight
I think there is a lot more to the story that isn't being told. I also think some one is playing the "race card".
For what ever reason you were booted, you probably could have been Thorton J. Whipplespoof III, and have gotten the same treatment.
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#27
08-20-2005, 06:09 PM
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Re: Harrahs treated me like I\'m a potential terrorist tonight
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I think there is a lot more to the story that isn't being told. I also think some one is playing the "race card". For what ever reason you were booted, you probably could have been Thorton J. Whipplespoof III, and have gotten the same treatment. [/ QUOTE ] As Paul Harvey would say, "Now, the rest of the story."
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#28
08-20-2005, 06:13 PM
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Re: Harrahs treated me like I\'m a potential terrorist tonight
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Now if you'll excuse me I have to go home and put some water in Buck Nasty's mama's dish. [/ QUOTE ] classic! one of the funniest things ive ever seen in me entire life!... "she wear underwear with d*ck holes in them" "Look like a boot leg ice T"!
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#29
08-20-2005, 06:26 PM
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Re: Harrahs treated me like I\'m a potential terrorist tonight
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[ QUOTE ] First of all, not all casinos can legally bar card counters. Apparently New Jersey casinos are prohibited by law from such bars (Uston v. Resorts International Hotel, Inc, 1982). [/ QUOTE ] Wrong this stated that card counters couldnt be barred for cheating, but they can be barred for counting. [/ QUOTE ] Well, you seem to be familiar with it, but that's not at all what I found by browsing Google results. A UNLV Professor's site: [ QUOTE ] The state Supreme Court held, in Uston v. Resorts International Hotel Inc., 445 A.2d 370 (1982), that government control of blackjack was so complete that casinos in Atlantic City did not have the authority to decide whether skilled players could be barred. [/ QUOTE ] Some sort of law school resource: [ QUOTE ] Facts: The defendant excluded plaintiff from the blackjack tables in its casino because the plaintiff is an expert card counter. Issue: Can the defendant exclude the plaintiff from its casino just because the plaintiff is an expert card counter? Holding: No [/ QUOTE ] Again, you seem to have more background knowledge than I do, but I didn't find anything saying that the Uston case was about casinos barring cheaters. That said, not everything on the Net is a trustworthy source and there's a reason why you can't earn a law degree from 5 minutes of Web surfing, so I'll defer to your knowledge. That's interesting about the "public accomodation" part, though. Thanks for the info.
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#30
08-20-2005, 06:27 PM
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Re: Harrahs treated me like I\'m a potential terrorist tonight
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I went to a harrahs casino tonight after 1am. I poured myself a pink lemonade and did one lap around all the tables on the first floor with the two girls I was with. I wasn't loud, uncivil, or unruly. I was my cool, calm and collected self... arguably the most quiet guy in the place. Some harrahs blond girl took my lemonade out of my hand like it was an alcoholic drink and asked for my id. I was shocked and handed over my drink and id (I'm 30). I was then told to leave the place after some guy wrote down my description like I was a terrorist; I hadn't even had the chance to place my name on the poker waiting list. [/ QUOTE ] Heres the key... How does someone writing down your descrpition, instantly make you assume you think he thinks ur a terrorist. There is without a doubt something more to this.
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