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Old 12-11-2005, 08:54 AM
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Default Collection of \"How do i play AAxx threads\" 4 newbs like me

All posts have been taken from the archives.

Playing/Reading Aces Preflop Omaha Hi
http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/show...=148#Post882821

Playing Aces after the flop
http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/show...=148#Post879917

Calling against Obvious Aces
http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/show...=149#Post871974

How to play against aces ?
http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...2&page=147

Single-suited Aces: How would you play this?
http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...8&page=141

Busting aces goes wrong, debatable flop and turn plays
http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/show...=141#Post942879


playing junky aces to reraise
http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/show...=139#Post947899

AAxx preflop
http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...8&page=125

Rolf's PLO article
http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...0&page=104
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Old 12-11-2005, 02:15 PM
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Cool, thanks for collecting these.
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:10 PM
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Sweet! Thanks.

If in your time in the archives you find any good stuff on preflop hand selection, position or any other frequently discussed topics it'd be awesome if you posted them!
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:42 PM
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And perhaps you could sticky this as well, or maybe link it in the FAQ?

Awesome job OP
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Old 12-11-2005, 08:37 PM
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And perhaps you could sticky this as well, or maybe link it in the FAQ?

Awesome job OP

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I added it to the FAQ.
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Old 12-11-2005, 08:54 PM
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Well done, i am gonna read em since AA is my biggest loosing hand.
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Old 12-11-2005, 09:13 PM
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Well done, i am gonna read em since AA is my biggest loosing hand.

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As long as you realize that there is a great difference amongst various AA hands, and that something like AA72r really isn't much better allin equity wise than virtually any other hand, and that the best AA hand cannot be much more than a 2-1 favorite allin against virtually any random hand, then there is no reason it should be. Judging the quality of a particular AA hand and taking into account stack sizes is the key to playing AA properly.
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Old 12-11-2005, 09:23 PM
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AA72r really isn't much better allin equity wise than virtually any other hand

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I disagree if you mean to imply that A-A-rag-rag isnt worth getting all in preflop (assuming you read that someone else doesnt have the other aces). I believe it is. Although Im open to change my mind on the matter if you can convince me otherwise.
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Old 12-11-2005, 09:31 PM
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I disagree if you mean to imply that A-A-rag-rag isnt worth getting all in preflop (assuming you read that someone else doesnt have the other aces). I believe it is. Although Im open to change my mind on the matter if you can convince me otherwise.

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Isn't this covered in the AAxx thread?
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Old 12-11-2005, 09:32 PM
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pokenum -mc 500000 -o ad ac 7s 2h - qd jh th 9c
Omaha Hi: 500000 sampled boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7s Ac Ad 2h 280661 56.13 219339 43.87 0 0.00 0.561
9c Qd Jh Th 219339 43.87 280661 56.13 0 0.00 0.439

This simulation shows that a bad AA rag hand does indeed have an equity advantage over the more common type of hand that another player is willing to take against AA even headsup, but it's not a bone-crusher. With a smaller stack size I certainly would be willing to go allin headsup with such a hand, but multiway or with deep stacks and lots of money to bet the flop, then just calling someone else's preflop raise is the best option, followed by usually quietly folding the flop when you mostly don't flop a set of As or a board set with your sidecards.

But if you overplay that type of hand with deep stacks you will be a long term loser for it. And as I have stated here before, with a deep stack facing other deep stacks and aggressive players multiway, I have folded that type of hand preflop a few times, and don't regret doing so because I can find a better hand and a better spot than that to invest a big stack on.
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