$22 - is this too donk-like?

[EricW]

***** Hand History for Game 2873341016 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16518763 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Tuesday, November 08, 00:26:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 14436 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 7: batmanubc ( $775 )
Seat 3: DVM09 ( $670 )
Seat 5: bogeyman999 ( $670 )
Seat 4: Jailcop42 ( $1465 )
Seat 2: hawk38111 ( $1485 )
Seat 8: alecfriedman ( $530 )
Seat 9: reebHimself_ ( $775 )
Seat 1: timhedd ( $1630 )
Trny:16518763 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to batmanubc [ 7d 3d ]
>You have options at Table 13789 Table!.
alecfriedman folds.
reebHimself_ folds.
timhedd folds.
hawk38111 calls [30].
DVM09 calls [30].
Jailcop42 folds.
bogeyman999 calls [15].
>You have options at Table 13778 Table!.
batmanubc checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 7c, Ad ]
bogeyman999 checks.
batmanubc checks.
hawk38111 checks.
DVM09 bets [75].
bogeyman999 folds.
batmanubc is all-In [745]

[rbear]

yes

[splashpot]

Man, I would never dream of doing this against 3 opponents with an A on the flop.

Edit: I just noticed the flush draw. Still I don't like it.

[gildwulf]

That's pretty bad because you are only going to get called by a better hand and even a flush draw with two overs (to you) is in good shape against you. You also have like 25+BB so this is doubly silly. You're also going against someone who has shown some kind of strength (he may be bluffing but do you want to spend 25BB to find out?)

Peace,
Zach

[EricW]

Thanks guys. I was talking to pergesu and he also listed why it was pretty bad.

Don't do this, if he has an ace he's probably calling, and then it's a coinflip and you win 50.10% of the time, not exactly what you're looking for, if he has two pair you're 40% to win and if he has A7 you're only 34% to win, if he has trips you're around 28% to win, there aren't any hands someone is going to call with that you have a high win percentage against so I wouldn't get carried away with this hand, you'll have much better spots to put you money in at.

[tigerite]

I don't like it, calling is better.. or if you're feeling frisky, you could raise, but not all-in. Say to 150-200. May give you a free turn card.

Can someone maybe explain why this is such a bad move, because it really doesn’t seem so bad to me. Three players checked around and the villain bet in last position. Most players, I believe, are betting quite a wide range here so I don’t think we need to automatically give him credit for a strong hand. T9s and 88 are both hands that get bet here by a number of players and will fold to a push. And, even if he does have a strong hand the hero is even money to win, or slightly worse. A number of players will also bet Arag but lay it down to a push. If the villain folds half the time, and I think it’s more, than pushing is ~150 chip EV better than folding. That seems like enough to risk the early exit.

Everyone obviously disagrees with this so I’m wondering where the difference is.

[sng-sam]

Hee Haw!

Straight Flushes,

SAM

[Uppercut]

Man, what's the rush? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]