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When is it a set?
This is a phenomenom I see at the 100NL and 200NL and occasionally the 50NL.
I'm playing the 50s to somewhat get my confidence back. If you have TP or overpair and you get checkraised or raised significantly (3x your flop bet), it is almost never a set and almost always a draw and not a monster draw either. Whereas if its smoothcalled on the flop, and minraised on the turn or smoothcalled onthe flop, underbet when checked to on the turn, value bet when checked to on the river, it is almost always a set. agree or disagree? |
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Re: When is it a set?
C/r on the flop is rarely a draw, IMO.
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Re: When is it a set?
yea no way is a CR a draw, at least from anyone with half a brain.
i frequently CR my big hands if there is some nasty draws on the board How i raise really depends on the texture of the board, position, players in the hand, etc. |
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Re: When is it a set?
I mean headsup, rainbow flop.
maybe its the type of players I've been running in to but I've been shown inside straight draw or OESD or nothing way too often when I lay down my overpair to sizable flop raise. I think the big check raise on a fairly drawless flop really represents a badly disguised set and often thats the effect these guys are going for and they figure there is a chance you are on missed overs. |
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Re: When is it a set?
You are losing because you are overthinking. People accurately represent their hands at NL50. Nobody is making the play you are describing.
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Re: When is it a set?
most of it occured in the 100s. I think I find the lag tables and then see monsters when those lags lag it up.
I still think most people slow play sets though. |
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Re: When is it a set?
[ QUOTE ]
most of it occured in the 100s. I think I find the lag tables and then see monsters when those lags lag it up. I still think most people slow play sets though. [/ QUOTE ] sure. c/c, c/r is usually a set. lead/3-bet is usually a set. but c/r flop is also usually a set/2pr. |
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Re: When is it a set?
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Whereas if its smoothcalled on the flop, and minraised on the turn or smoothcalled onthe flop, underbet when checked to on the turn, value bet when checked to on the river, it is almost always a set. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this part. The flop call, turn minraise is a set. Which is why I lead out with my sets. |
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Re: When is it a set?
the lead is interesting to play against.
I think I used to minraise the lead with a TP or overpair type hand and of course fold to 3 bet but lately I find that an inferior line since most people with the set will call your minraise and weak lead the turn or try to check raise the turn. I think these days I just smooth call the flop lead and check behind if he checks the turn. if he weak leads the turn again, I smoothcall again and plan on folding to 1/2 pot + bet at river if he leads river again. |
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