Very marginal situation, 94o

#1 10-11-2005, 01:55 PM

Opponent is pretty TAG, thought this was kind of interesting, but may be not. Is calling this river suicide?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) converter

CO ($189.80)
Button ($312.95)
SB ($83.05)
Hero ($253.65)
UTG ($66)
MP ($253)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls $2, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($5) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($9) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO calls $7.

River: ($23) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $14, Hero calls $14.

Final Pot: $51

mudbuddha · #2 10-11-2005, 02:01 PM

i think a raise on the flop to 7 (pot size) would be better to snap off any continuation bets.. alot easier to make a decision rather than calling then just leading out, his call on the turn scares me very much since the 4 kicker is pretttty bad. if anything it looks like he's beating you and letting you hang yourself..

kitaristi0 · #3 10-11-2005, 02:01 PM

I raise or fold on the flop. I think calling is the worst option. If my raise doesn't win it there, I'm done with hand/proceeding very cautiously.

#4 10-11-2005, 02:05 PM

He just limped preflop, is that still considered a continuation bet?

Would you actually plan on CRing this flop, or just betting out?

kitaristi0 · #5 10-11-2005, 02:07 PM

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He just limped preflop, is that still considered a continuation bet?

Would you actually plan on CRing this flop, or just betting out?

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Continuation bet/bet with nothing trying to take it down, same thing.

It depends on the villain, usually i'll just bet out.

mudbuddha · #6 10-11-2005, 02:12 PM

i probably wouldnt have checked with the intention of check-raising but after a weak ass bet, i often raise..

and i didnt mean continuation bet.. i bet at flops like that heads up with any 2 cards. a raise would either take it down or allow you to fold w/o bettin that turn/calling that river.

#7 10-11-2005, 02:18 PM

As this hand itself played out, I may very well call this river bet... to the villian, your call / bet / check sequence of events looks like you're trying to bluff him off his hand on the turn, and give it up on the river.

This hand is a pain in the ass to play, I'd like to lead out on the flop here, but the boards so draw heavy you don't know if villian is crushing you or drawing against you.

This may be weak/tight, but OOP with such a weak kicker on a draw heavy board, I just check/fold this. Although I play full ring as apposed to 6 max which may influence my decisions here, but I don't want to play in big pots with this sort of hand, OOP with no idea where you are in the hand.

KowCiller · #8 10-11-2005, 02:28 PM

I think you played it fine. I have a tendency to raise weak flop bets like that just to take it down, however i'd be more inclined to do that with a hand with less showdown value. I like the turn stop n go and the river check-call. I don't see any other lines being far superior.

KoW

orange · #9 10-11-2005, 02:40 PM

Does anyone block this river?

BobboFitos · #10 10-11-2005, 02:41 PM

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I raise or fold on the flop. I think calling is the worst option. If my raise doesn't win it there, I'm done with hand/proceeding very cautiously.

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Interesting, I think calling is the best option, with raising being the worst and folding being not so good.