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Old 05-30-2005, 04:05 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Are the $33s getting tougher?

I found SevenFigures at my table today. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 05-30-2005, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Are the $33s getting tougher?

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I found SevenFigures at my table today. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Who?
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Old 05-30-2005, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: Are the $33s getting tougher?

He was at the 11s a couple weeks ago. 8 tabling or probably 12 tabling them.
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Old 05-30-2005, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: Are the $33s getting tougher?

Attribute it variance, sample size, self-fulfilling prophesies, or whatever, but I can easily beat the 22s and just can't seem to improve beyond breaking even at the 33s.
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Old 05-30-2005, 04:57 PM
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Attribute it variance, sample size, self-fulfilling prophesies, or whatever, but I can easily beat the 22s and just can't seem to improve beyond breaking even at the 33s.

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What he said. Itm 40%+ in the 22s and 35%~ in the 33s.

I havent played many 33s but sometimes it seems like a regular 22 (or 11 even) and sometimes its awfully tight.I might just build enough roll for 55s in the 22s and leave the 33s for the 12-tablers.
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Old 05-30-2005, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: Are the $33s getting tougher?

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Attribute it variance, sample size, self-fulfilling prophesies, or whatever, but I can easily beat the 22s and just can't seem to improve beyond breaking even at the 33s.

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What he said. Itm 40%+ in the 22s and 35%~ in the 33s.

I havent played many 33s but sometimes it seems like a regular 22 (or 11 even) and sometimes its awfully tight.I might just build enough roll for 55s in the 22s and leave the 33s for the 12-tablers.

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FWIW, I started to go this route as well, but one of the experienced SnG'ers here talked me out of it. His attititude was that if you can't beat the 33s, you won't be able to beat the limits beyond the 55s.

So, if you're happy with the 55s forever, go for it -- otherwise, you probably should figure out how to beat the 33s (and let me know how once you do [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]).
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Old 05-30-2005, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: Are the $33s getting tougher?

33s kicked my ass so far also. I don't give up that easily though.
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Old 05-30-2005, 07:49 PM
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dfscott,

are you suggesting that:

-it's feasible to be beating the $55s but not the $30s (for some reason?)
-but if beating the $55s in this case, it'd be very doubtful that one would also be beating the $100s/$200s
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Old 05-31-2005, 02:24 AM
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I might just build enough roll for 55s in the 22s and leave the 33s for the 12-tablers.

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I did this, and it worked out very well. I had around 18-20% ROI in the 22s. I played about 20 33s, hated them (too few chips, too many good players), and skipped up to the 55s. I played about 150 55s at break even. I wrote those tournaments off as my learning curve. Since then, I've been pretty consistently winning. 11% ROI, 36.6% ITM, the last 300 tournaments (At 276 tournaments, my ROI was 15.6%. Since then, I've been on a bit of a losing streak).
About $1700 in profit, which is difficult to do in the 22s.
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Old 05-31-2005, 02:32 AM
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Is the consensus here that the $30s should be avoided? Anyone disagree with this?
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