Tonight WSOP Circuit tourney? Did everybody read caro's boof of tells?

Smoothcall · #1 07-20-2005, 07:38 AM

I have never seen so many people picking up on tells and being right so often on an episdoe as i have on this episode. It was scary! They musta all read caro's book of tells.

I only saw a little over an hour of last half but the hands that come to mind are these.

Lee raises Gabriel(or whatever his name is) reraises 92off??(musta had a HUGE tell on this guy to make this play) then its up to jennifer and she think for a second and looking at gabriel and all of a sudden she jumped(she picked up on something for sure that she then knew he was on a stone bluff) she then stood up and was deciding whether it was worth coming back over the top or gamblinf for what she had left if called because she knew he was weak. And her and gabriel musta knew lee was weak. He(lee) musta been doing something that was easy to pick up on. He was the most inexpereinced by far. Anyway she mucked(she had nothing by the way). But her reaction while looking at gabriel was scary. If you watch it again look for it.(maybe i'm jumping to conclusion, and i only saw it once but thats what it looked like to me).

The jean bellerde bets flop lee raises jean moves in lee has to muck(this one not so impressive as jean may have done that even without a read just hoping lee was screwing around. But nonetheless a correct read. Not to mention Lee reading jean for not having a hand on the flop either.

Jennifer raises k10s lee reraises A rag Jenn moves in. Again i think she had a pretty good read on him as she didnt even think about this play. And usually she deliberates so i feel she was farily confident he was weak and making a play.

I don't put emphasis on reads as much as other people do. Daniel says he doesn't either. But i think in NL it can be very important as once you have the read down it can pay huge dividends even if on only one big hand. Not to mention many others. But was going on at that final table? Did everybody take an esp pill that night?

Btw, to change the subject isn't jennifer the sweetest and cutest high limit poker player there is? I mean she genuinely comes off like a very nice and cool person. She doesn't have the chip on her shoulder that alot of the other players do.

sekrah · #2 07-20-2005, 07:53 AM

Lee had tons of tells. JR Bellande had tons of tells. It was really sad. It was amateur night. I doubt we'll see that J.R. Bellande ever again, he's not that good of a player at all, just caught a couple great hands when other people had nice hands as well. Wasn't impressed with Doug Lee either.

Harman owned this table, unfortunantly she couldn't catch the cards to acquire enough chips to make it happen.

Smoothcall · #3 07-20-2005, 08:25 AM

Bellarde has an uncanny ability to amass a ton of chip in tounrmants even very ealry on. I'm sure he bust outs early many times as well. And even when he does get these huge chips ealry i bet he blows it by getting involded in spots top players wouldn't if the few times i have seen him blow huge stacks(and the way he blew them) is any indication. But he is very dangerous and a terror once he gets some chips and i think you will definately see him again. And he would be right up there with one of the last people i would want on my left with a big stack. Although also you best chance of doubling up(besdies hon "kamikazee" le). But forget about trying to stela his blind or anyone else blind for that matter if he's on your left. Shut it down!

Sponger15SB · #4 07-20-2005, 11:12 AM

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JR Bellande had tons of tells. It was really sad. It was amateur night. I doubt we'll see that J.R. Bellande ever again, he's not that good of a player at all, just caught a couple great hands when other people had nice hands as well.

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sekrah · #5 07-20-2005, 11:31 AM

If you play in a enough tournaments, you'll finish ITM.

This guy has a sharp aggressive style, and that'll get you part of the way there.. but he's very far from being a good polished poker player..

If played in dozens of tournaments a year, I would have a couple final table.

The guy is a chump.

Sponger15SB · #6 07-20-2005, 11:34 AM

How do you know how many tourneys this guy has played?

KC50 · #7 07-20-2005, 11:42 AM

Sponger,

Most will not agree with this guy saying we will not see Jean again. Don't waste your time with him.

Your stats are enough to say Jean is a winning player. He may not be in the class of Daniel, Jennifer, along with other pros, but a winning player he is.

KC

Jim T · #8 07-20-2005, 11:56 AM

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If you play in a enough tournaments, you'll finish ITM.

This guy has a sharp aggressive style, and that'll get you part of the way there.. but he's very far from being a good polished poker player..

If played in dozens of tournaments a year, I would have a couple final table.

The guy is a chump.

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Let's assume you're right, and that he's played in "dozens" of tournements this year. Let's say that the average buyin was 2500. 36*2500=90,000. Eyeballing his cashes, he's won over 500,000 this year.

I wish I was a chump player like that.

KC50 · #9 07-20-2005, 11:31 AM

Harman owned this table, unfortunantly she couldn't catch the cards to acquire enough chips to make it happen.

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What??? If she wins the hand she went out on as the big favorite (when her opponent catches one of the 2 10's left in the deck on the river) she has plenty of chips.

And yes she is a great example of demeanor on the felt.

KC

Smoothcall · #10 07-20-2005, 11:43 AM

While i like Jenn i wouldn't say she owned the table by any means. I would say she played the most careful and put herself in a good position to finish 2nd or 3rd and still have a fighting chance to win. Which is the same way i would played it. But i wouldn't say i owned the table because i stayed out of the way. And right before that qq's hand she got it all in with q7 against lees' q9 and she sucked out a 7 on the turn. So that works both ways.