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Old 11-18-2005, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 i hate unraised pots

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Am i the only one that folds here? Against certain opponents i will raise or call, but against two unknowns (including a likely crappy UTG limper), i think i fold.

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nope, I fold as well. this pot is miniscule, all our outs are scare cards, opponents are unknown, we don't have position.
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Old 11-18-2005, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 i hate unraised pots

I think this is a raise. Since there was no raise preflop, the likely hood of you being up against an ace is much less. That means we probably are ahead right now. SB can easily take a shot with a lower pair, a flush draw, or absolutely nothing. Furthermore, we have 6 outs to improve to virtual nuts, and we shouldn't really be fearing the flush if it hits.
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Old 11-18-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 i hate unraised pots

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Am i the only one that folds here? Against certain opponents i will raise or call, but against two unknowns (including a likely crappy UTG limper), i think i fold.

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nope, I fold as well. this pot is miniscule, all our outs are scare cards, opponents are unknown, we don't have position.

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How are our outs scare cards? Furthermore, UTG folds the vast majority of the time, so we do have position.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 i hate unraised pots

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Am i the only one that folds here?

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No. Homie don't play that game. I would continue after an SB bet only if I made a set or an OESD.

If SB checked I would bet a rag flop. Otherwise I check and usually fold to an UTG bet.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 i hate unraised pots

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Am i the only one that folds here?

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No. Homie don't play that game. I would continue after an SB bet only if I made a set or an OESD.

If SB checked I would bet a rag flop. Otherwise I check and usually fold to an UTG bet.

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Seems like a lot of people are saying fold. To me it seems like a pretty easy raise, but maybe I am wrong. Anyone else wanna comment here?
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 i hate unraised pots

SB completed, so there are a lot of hands he could have that include an A.
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Old 11-18-2005, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 i hate unraised pots

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SB completed, so there are a lot of hands he could have that include an A.

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And a ton that could include a flush draw, a 4, a 2, or absolutely nothing.

And, the times he does have an ace, we have 6 outs.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 i hate unraised pots

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Am i the only one that folds here?

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No. Homie don't play that game. I would continue after an SB bet only if I made a set or an OESD.

If SB checked I would bet a rag flop. Otherwise I check and usually fold to an UTG bet.

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Seems like a lot of people are saying fold. To me it seems like a pretty easy raise, but maybe I am wrong. Anyone else wanna comment here?

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I didn't notice the gutshot before. Might be worth a raise.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 i hate unraised pots

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Am i the only one that folds here?

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No. Homie don't play that game. I would continue after an SB bet only if I made a set or an OESD.

If SB checked I would bet a rag flop. Otherwise I check and usually fold to an UTG bet.

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Seems like a lot of people are saying fold. To me it seems like a pretty easy raise, but maybe I am wrong. Anyone else wanna comment here?

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I didn't notice the gutshot before. Might be worth a raise.

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And, although it is only slight help, the fact that we have a backdoor baby flush is good too.
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Old 11-18-2005, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 i hate unraised pots

Ninja-raise.
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